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Mixing Mike
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« on: October 01, 2004, 01:01:32 pm »

Is it allowed to make a proxy for a PSA graded card in a scantioned event?
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2004, 01:07:26 pm »

From the DCI Universal Tournament Rules

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34.   Proxy Cards
The use of proxy cards is not permitted except under the following conditions:
ï‚§ If a card becomes accidentally damaged or excessively worn through play in the current DCI-sanctioned tournament, the judge may provide a proxy replacement card at his or her discretion or require the player to sleeve all of his or her cards before play continues.
ï‚§ If a card opened out of sealed product for use in a Limited tournament is misprinted, miscut, or otherwise damaged in a way that would cause the card to be marked, the judge may provide a proxy replacement card at his or her discretion.

Players are not permitted to create a proxy. When a judge creates a proxy for a player, it is included in the player’s deck. The original card is kept close at hand during the match. When the proxy is in play, replace it with the original. When the original card returns to the player’s deck/hand, swap it with the proxy. This replacement method helps ensure that the opponent is able to clearly see the intended card and to avoid confusion.

The term “proxy� includes counterfeit cards or any card that is not a genuine game card. Counterfeiters will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.


I fail to see how a PSA-graded card in hard plastic could fall under either of those categories, so it would not be allowed.
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2004, 01:32:30 pm »

just sell your PSA cards and get two shitty ones.
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2004, 02:47:31 pm »

Or you could play all of your cards in hard plastic cases. Okay, so it isn't a good solution (especially if you're playing Battle of Wits), but it allows you to play with your graded cards without fear of damaging them. Also, I suspect that non-sanctioned tournaments would be more tolerant of such a practice, since many of them allow proxies to begin with.
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2004, 05:11:00 pm »

Quote from: Ephraim
Or you could play all of your cards in hard plastic cases.


Most TO's (sanctioned or not) won't allow hard plastic cases because it's too hard to sufficiently randomize your deck in a quick manner.  I've seen numerous tournaments where the player was asked to resleeve them in normal sleeves or be DQ'd (sanctioned and non-sanctioned).
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2004, 08:32:45 pm »

Well, I'm asking if the Judge could accecpt it at a scantioned event.
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2004, 08:58:28 pm »

Nope.  No proxies are allowed except those issued by the judging staff.  So if you can get one of the judges to get you one, then good beats ja.
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2004, 09:15:34 pm »

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Or you could play all of your cards in hard plastic cases. Okay, so it isn't a good solution (especially if you're playing Battle of Wits), but it allows you to play with your graded cards without fear of damaging them. Also, I suspect that non-sanctioned tournaments would be more tolerant of such a practice, since many of them allow proxies to begin with.


I guess you never saw a PSA card, since it's not just a regular toploader O_o
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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2004, 02:54:46 am »

http://www.themanadrain.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19784
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