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« on: June 10, 2005, 05:34:31 am » |
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Using Basalt Monolith as a guide, I thought something like the following could be a minor addition to the master list. Artifact acceleration is considered fine as long as it doesn't produce more in a turn than it costs, so hopefully there won't be any power issues here. For example, Sol Ring was too good, but Worn Powerstone and Ur-Golem's Eye are fine.
Small Monolith 2 Artifact ~This~ doesn't untap during your untap step. Tap: Add 2 to your mana pool. 2: Untap ~this~
Alternatively, same cost, but the following abilities:
~This~ comes into play with a charge counter on it. (This is optional, since it may be safer if it can't be used until one's next turn...) Tap, remove a charge counter from ~this~: Add 2 to your mana pool. Tap: Put a charge counter on ~this~.
I will add a current wording once a direction is chosen, but I'm easy to either. A name and flavour text would be useful too!
Current Wording Granite Monolith Artifact {2} Granite Monolith comes into play tapped. Tap, remove a charge counter from Granite Monolith: Add {2} to your mana pool. Tap: Put a charge counter on Granite Monolith. Granite Monoliths are a source of energy only for those who have the required patience.
Edit: CiPT, name, flavour text.
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2005, 06:28:58 am » |
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Seeing as how Basalt Monolith needs some very clunky errata to avoid repeated tapping/untapping, I don't think this is a good idea.
If you make the untap cost 3 that solves most of the problems (assuming Power Artifact doesn't get printed).
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2005, 07:55:03 am » |
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Basalt Monolith received errata because that's how things were handled back then. These days, they'd just restrict Power Artifact. However, if that's a problem, the other idea looks fine to me, so I can just use that.
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2005, 08:40:23 am » |
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Actually, Relic Bind was the combo piece of choice, and they randomly decided to errata it too.
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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2005, 09:37:08 am » |
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Relic Bind received errata because of Basalt Monolith, but Basalt Monolith received errata because of Power Artifact. I think Relic Bind + Mana Vault and similar cards probably worried people at the time...
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2005, 01:17:02 am » |
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2005, 12:53:36 pm » |
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As far as the initial mana boost, doesn't this kind of slap Worn Powerstone & Co. around? Play it, charge it, and on tuirn three you have five mana. Is that too fast?
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2005, 02:51:49 pm » |
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This would be OK (i.e. slower) if it CIPT or cost 3. Wizards efforts since Urza's block show they are wary of anything that can give a 2 mana boost although with multi-coloured mana you can get a 2 mana boost as a one-shot deal with the Prism.
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2005, 07:21:08 pm » |
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It's not like people use Ur-Golem's Eye (or Sisay's Ring), while Worn Powerstone and Thran Dynamo at least saw use when Tinker was legal. I also think Pentad Prism is the superior accelerant, if speed is the only use for the card. However, playing safe seems to be the done thing, so I made it CiPT.
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2005, 11:13:47 am » |
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Telling me some accelerant was good enough to hang with Tinker isn't exactly assuaging my fears.  The Urza lands are a defining element of Standard right now. In Onslaught block people even used [card]Temple of the False God[/card]. I think that even with CIPT this would be played in Standard.
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2005, 05:19:59 pm » |
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It's not so much that those accelerants were good enough to hang with Tinker, it's that they saw no play in decks that didn't have Tinker and/or Metalworker. Much the same could be said for Gilded Lotus. That said, I have no real problems with it CiPT, since it still looks playable.
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2005, 09:17:42 pm » |
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Edit: Postponed at Matt's request.
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2005, 07:12:20 pm » |
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Could we hold off the clock for a day or two? I have some flavor text that I'd like to submit, and is very cool (it's from one of the old, old Magic novel anthologies) - but I don't have it with me at the moment.
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