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TheWhiteDragon
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« on: October 24, 2004, 05:36:25 pm »

I think this card would be incredibly useful, but limited enough to not be broken.  It would help balance out the weaknesses of certain colors, much like Nevinnyral's Disk, but still not be stupidly powerful or too easy to use.

Enscribed Nullstone
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Enchantments cost 3 more to play.
3T: Sacrifice Enscribed Nullstone, destroy target enchantment.


What do you all think about this?  I think it's about time artifacts had the power to stop an enchantment besides disk.  Kill switch, null rod, etc. give brown the power to stop artifacts and several other cards lend an artifact answer to almost every permanent/spell problem, so why not enchantments?
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2004, 06:46:11 pm »

The problem with it is it gives every color access to specific enchantment destruction, which is a huge violation of the color pie. I don't think something like this will ever get printed.
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I know this won't happen in a tournament, but if my opponent has Chaos Orb in his hand while I'm controlling his turn from a Mindslaver, who flips the card if I force him to play it and activate it?

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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2004, 11:51:11 pm »

I know that this card disregards the color wheel, but that's what artifacts do.  Artifacts are a tool for every color to use to handle what they lack.  Artifacts can deal with other artifacts, creatures, lands, sources of damage, spells, graveyards, hand size, and even enchantments (through crown of the ages and nev's disk).  I think this card would give brown a reasonable way to handle enchantments.  It would allow every color to have an answer to enchantments, like nev's disk does (which is far more broken IMHO), but still remain costly and only good to remove an on-the-table enchantment once.  It will be kind of like a "pit trap" for enchantments.  The fact that artifacts already have ways to handle every aspect of magic, and is supposed to act as a suppliment to colors, I believe this card is totally in "color" flavor.
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2004, 03:52:56 am »

This already exists as an on-colour card, Aura of Silence.
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2004, 02:22:41 pm »

Yes, I understand this has an aura of silence like effect, but it is more limited in exchange for being an artifact.  The way I see it, colors that can already handle enchantments get the most benefit out of artifacts (besides the incredibly broken tinker in blue).  To say that the card already exists in white (which is still different because it hits artifacts too) is the same as saying don't print naturalize because you already have disenchant.  It lends an answer to colors that don't have that answer, which is what artifacts do best - supplement colors to compensate for their weaknesses.  Many artifacts mirror the effects of colored cards (pentagram of the ages vs. story circle for example), but that's the beauty of brown.  It can do what ALL colors can do, just in a more costly and limited way.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2004, 03:10:53 am »

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It lends an answer to colors that don't have that answer


Exactly. And that's why it shouldn't be printed; the whole point of the colour wheel is that not every colour has access to every type of effect.

I wouldn't mind an artifact that had a _different_ solution to enchantments, unlike the white cards we already have. E.g.

Wirebound Nullstone
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1: Counter target enchantment spell unless its controller pays 1.
1: Counter target activated ability of an enchantment unless its controller pays 1.

I think that's a reasonable effect.
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2004, 10:17:34 am »

@ Laurie:  It would only be reasonable if you meant to put a {T} symbol as an activation cost.  The way you have it worded now, your opponent could never play an enchantment spell as long as you have more mana open.
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2004, 10:42:29 am »

Yes, that was my intention. Ok, ok, maybe it's a bit unreasonable...

Wirebound Nullstone
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Artifact
X, T: Counter target enchantment spell unless its controller pays X.
X, T: Counter target activated ability of an enchantment unless its controller pays X.
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