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[article] when versatility breeds laziness
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November 22, 2004, 09:16:08 am »
...and hopefully this just won't turn into a discussion of the one decklist at the cost of everything else in the article.
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[article] when versatility breeds laziness
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November 22, 2004, 11:36:34 am »
I am at work and read the article quickly. This is one of your better articles and one of your best in a long time. I have beef with one point.
With Regards to Cunning Wish and not maindecking specific answers(ie creature, artifact, enchantment, etc removal): While abuse inherently implies an improper use I believe you are one of the biggest fans of not dicking around and just winning. I feel that in decks like tog and control slaver maindecking removal is [underline] usually[/underline] wasteful as you could have just either killed your opponent or slaved them thereby usually winning the game either way.
I believe in threats that make removal unimportant to pack and make the opponents deck irrelevant. Phsyscatog (just kill them), Platinum Angel (fish, some oath decks), Mindslaver (use their removal, or destroy their board position and hand, at worst buy time to find an answer), Oath + Orchard (the creatures you find are nearly indestructable and hit hard) although maybe they should occaisionally watch out for welders because I have killed a lot of oath decks with control slaver (I have lost my share too) but welder is normally what is doing them in.
When you use a word like abuse though I am also against it. As far as junking up the sideboard I feel that you are right on. Don't shit up your SB's people!
Side Comment: If the anti artifact question was directed to all the anti 3sphere people and the obvious option of annul (or any other removal for that matter). That implies that I went first to drop an island which means I probably dropped moxes which means that 3sphere is an annoyance but not lethal. It is good vs. workshop.dec but it shines vs. oath (obviously).
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[article] when versatility breeds laziness
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Very nice. Extremely well written and interesting - more of the same would be much appreciated.
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