Oshawa Stompy in a Workshop heavy metagame?

[JamesPr]

I'm thinking of building an Oshawa Stompy deck and I want to know if it's a good choice in a workshop heavy metagame.  In my metagame (Kalamazoo MI) there are a lot of workshop decks, and also random decks run rampant.  Since FCG doesn't do very well against what I've been playing against, I've decided I want to try out a new deck.

Here is the list I managed to dig up, from the tmd pro.boards.

//Mana Dirt: 17
10 Forest
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
2 Petrified Field
//
//Alternative Mana: 7
4 Elvish Spirit Guide
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Emerald
//
//Toolbox: 28
4 Survival of the Fittest
4 Bazaar of Baghdad
4 Squee, Goblin Nabob
4 Basking Rootwalla
4 Wild Mongrel
4 Troll Ascetic
4 Arrogant Wurm
//
//Disruption: 8
4 Hidden Gibbons
3 Null Rod
1 Regrowth
//
//Sideboard: 15
4 Naturalize
4 Ground Seal
4 Tormod's Crypt
2 Root Maze
1 Null Rod

I can get everything but the power and the bazaars.  Since the bazaars are one of the cornerstones of the deck, I'm thinking those should be the ones I proxy.

[Hi-Val]

I would swap out the ESG for Llanowar Elves. While ESG gets past Trinisphere, the Elves are game over if they hit against Stax, believe it or not. JP had built a bazaarless Survival list that used 8 elves I think, and it ruined workshop decks. Sadly, it ruined not much else. With a deck like Oshawa where getting a threat on the table can immensely help against workshop decks, maybe I'm wrong in wanting to replace ESG. They can be Survivaled for to cast things under Trinisphere, though that is incredibly slow. I think the advantage that the Elves have is that they are another permanent for Smokestack and Tangle Wire and can chump Juggernauts.

As far as other things for the deck, you might consider these two gems for pure Technetium: Scarwood Bandits potentially murders artifact decks, and if you're running the elves, a Pendelhaven or two. A singleton Tracker might be good as well. In any case, replace that Regrowth with Eternal Witness!

[WildWillieWonderboy]

The absolute most important thing is that mana elves and birds slide right under trinisphere; land, elf turn one and another land turn two upsets the first turn sphere big time.

[Covetous]

Would something other than Hidden Gibbons (i.e. Naturalize/Oxidize/Root Maze) be better vs. Workshop decks (and the rest of the field)?  Or is the idea to use the Gibbons to shore up Control Matchups?

[JamesPr]

I forgot to mention there is also a lot of FCG, which would be one of the "random" decks I mentioned.  How well does this deck perform against a fully powered FCG deck?

(In my goldfishing it didn't play fast enough)

[Nantuko Rice]

this deck would lose to FCG. period.

except once the FCG player kept a hand of land, mox, sol ring... the 2 artifacts got blown up by maindeck oxidizes and he could never draw another land.

if you wanna beat FCG, you need to outrace them, which is a bit hard.

[jpmeyer]

Yeah, basically they get Sharpshooter and/or Siege-Gang and der-molish you.

[Dxfiler]

this deck would lose to FCG. period.

except once the FCG player kept a hand of land, mox, sol ring... the 2 artifacts got blown up by maindeck oxidizes and he could never draw another land.

I remember that FCG player.  He lost  to these random maindeck oxidizes in top 16 of waterbury.  I was the random ostompy player :p

I bring this up because on that day I felt good with o stompy.  I liked my chances to win the top 8.  Only one FCG was left... I got him in first rd of top 8.  Nantuko Rice/Jason Zheng was the fcg and went on to win that waterbury.  I have not played Ostompy since.  It's just not good enough to completely run a competitive tournament field over the course of a day.  

Green/Red beats is just a better alternative if you're into ostompy.  It has alot of stompy components but the burn makes it better against slaver and now FCG goes from unwinnable to even.  Lots of good ideas/decklists are floating around in that thread, which is in this forum.  Take a look there if you haven't already.

- Dave Feinstein

[Discozombie]

try replacing the hidden gibbons with hidden guerrillas.

[Nantuko Rice]

Nantuko Rice/Jason Zheng was the fcg and went on to win that waterbury

lol... fcg in lowercase looks alot like "fag"

after that waterbury, i actually ended up playing R/G Beatz and placed well, but not well enough to be noticed.

right now i'm testing on.... RBG (Real Bad Goblins)... you'll see it at Waterbury in a week.