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Insect Swarm
1G
Summon Insect
0/2
T: Tap target creature. That creature deals damage equal to its power to Insect Swarm.
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Ephraim's Antlion made me think of doing an insect card. So here it is. It's a bunch of bugs. They're irritating, but they don't do any actual damage. They bug you, you swat at them, and maybe you can kill them off. The creature type is the singular "insect" because creature type matters now and I want this to be able to interact with other cards, like Antlion.
I kinda want to give them Haste, 'cause they're bugs, and they don't wait around to be annoying. I really don't want to lower the mana cost, but as it is, it won't become active until turn three, which seems slow, considering bigger creatures will start coming out then and big creatures make the insects die. Thoughts?
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CURRENT WORDING:
Swarm of Vermin
{B}{B}
Creature -- Insect
1/2
As long as Swarm of Vermin is attacking, blocking creatures get -1/-0.
Changes:
updated wording (Ephraim)
changed card
wording (Ephraim)
added flying (TheWalkingSponge)
removed flying and added 1 pt of toughnses (Matt)
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2005, 11:30:14 am » |
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I like the idea, but I see something of a flaw, here. Your justification for making it an insect is very plausible, but the ability is definitely blue or white, which are the colours least likely to have insects. Just as a side note, the format now used for "Summons" is "Creature -- <creature type>" and you don't have to worry about plurals. "Insects" and "Insect" have always been the same creature type, but WotC has stopped printing cards with plural creature types.
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2005, 11:52:07 am » |
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I don't think this is too much in violation of the Great Rainbow Pie. What do others think?
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2005, 02:14:32 pm » |
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Actually, I like the current wording. Green creature and all.
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2005, 02:53:41 pm » |
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This is crazy weak. On its own it can only tap things with 1 toughness, for two mana?
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2005, 03:22:41 pm » |
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This is crazy weak. On its own it can only tap things with 1 toughness, for two mana? How quickly you forget about ELEPHANT GUIDE?! Even if it is weak, it's not very green at all. |
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2005, 05:29:07 pm » |
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Most cards are weak. Suggest something, don't just complain. If it shouldn't be green, what should it be? The creature type could change--or the ability could change to make it more green. Anyway, being weak could be a good price for it to violate the color pie a little, if it comes to that. Plague Swarm   {B} Creature -- Insect 1/3  : Target attacking creature gets -1/-0 until end of turn. Use this ability only once per turn. ----- Swarm of Vermin {B} Creature -- Insect 1/1 Whenever Swarm of Vermin is attacking, defending creatures gets -1/-0 until end of turn. ----- Stinging Swarm {G} Creature -- Insect 2/1 Flying A creature dealt damage by Stinging Swarm does not untap during its next untap step. |
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2005, 03:25:51 pm » |
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What do I do with this? Can I change the initial one to make it acceptable in its color (by changing the ability or the color)? Do any of my other suggestions look good?
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2005, 02:26:32 am » |
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Of all the suggestions (including the original), I like the Swarm of Vermin the most. If you want to keep it an insect, i suggest a name change though, as I believe (though I could be wrong) the the term Vermin refers to rodents.
As for the others: the original is very "meh"; Plague Swarm is okay; and Stinging Swarm is obviously too good. Blue and white don't even get flyers that efficient. Even with a numbers tweak, it's too similar to the recent stuff in Kamigawa (the Matsu tribe, IIRC).
So yeah, my vote's for "Swarm of [Vermin]." I'd give the little suckers flying too.
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2005, 03:27:43 pm » |
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Vermin are just small, annoying things, whether they be bugs or rodents.
I'll change the original to that. I won't add flying, although I'm open to doing so if others agree that it should be there. I changed the wording a bit, to what I think would be right. Someone who knows wording better should check that.
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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2005, 04:39:21 pm » |
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I would like to get some kind of comment on this before I clock it. As it is, I feel like I'm just "settling".
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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2005, 04:42:45 pm » |
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Does that wording work?
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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2005, 04:44:23 pm » |
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Woah! I hadn't seen that you had so radically changed the card. I definitely like the ability. It doesn't substantially hurt your opponent, but it acts as a form of pseudo-evasion, making your creatures more likely to survive combat. It is very black in flavour, too.
In line with Jacob Orlove's objection, it might be better to say,
Whenever Swarm of Vermin attacks, creatures defending player controls get -1/-0 until end of turn.
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As long as Swarm of Vermin is attacking, blocking creatures get -1/-0.
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2005, 04:54:32 pm » |
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I like this a lot now. Could it get another toughness point, though?
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2005, 11:21:21 pm » |
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I would rather see it fly than have an extra point of toughness. Looking at Fog of Gnats, I don't think it's too much.
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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2005, 11:27:46 pm » |
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Fog of Gnats had effectively infinite toughness, though?
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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2005, 01:31:53 am » |
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Changed wording, added flying. I'm still a bit unsure about that, might remove it. I dunno. I like the idea of it being 1/2 than 1/1 flying, but 1/2 just look so wrong, for whatever reason. Still very open to suggestions.
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2005, 09:45:29 am » |
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Changed wording, added flying. I'm still a bit unsure about that, might remove it. I dunno. I like the idea of it being 1/2 than 1/1 flying, but 1/2 just look so wrong, for whatever reason. Still very open to suggestions. 1/2 looks wrong because you play type one. ;P |
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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2005, 01:56:34 pm » |
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1/2 looks wrong because you play type one. ;P Ha, so true. I switched it, so it's now 1/2 without flying. And... 24-HOUR CLOCK |
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« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2005, 03:53:45 pm » |
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Closed and added.[/color]
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