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vartemis
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oath sideboard
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May 19, 2005, 04:19:45 pm »
I have been tooling my oath sideboard lately and am enjoying how it is working with my local gaming group. I havent had a chance to take it out yet against a true metagame, but I was looking for some feedback as to the viability of the setup.
My original sideboard was fairly basic:
3 Arcane Laboratory (Combo)
3 Back to Basic or Blood Moon (Bloodmoon works well if I am expecting a heavy workshop field)
3 Energy Flux (Workshop and Slaver)
3 Ground Seal (Dragon and anything with a Welder in it)
1 Platinum Angel
1 Pristine Angel
1 Iridesent Angel
3 of's obviously to be intuitioned for.
Here is what I have been tooling with so far:
1 Platinum Angel
1 Pristine Angel
1 Tabernacle at Pendral Vale - good against swarm (goblin or elf, yes it does see play here) and if dragon tries to kill with Queen
1 Wasteland
1 Volrath's Stronghold - if I lose my gaeas blessing
1 Viridian Zealot
2 Gilded Drake - if opponent gets a decent creature in play
1 Eternal Witness - (i run lot of green) if i loose something i need
1 Nantuko Tracer - puts a blessing on bottom of library or a creature
1 Whirlpool Rider - restock landfilled hand
1 Minamo, School at Water's Edge - untap a tapped creature
1 Petrified Field - return an important land, like an orchard
3? - Lookin at a few of the creatures from Saviors
And I am running 3 Living wishes in the deck. I have found that this sideboard has worked very well. The Living Wishes are also handy if someone decides to swords one of my creatures. For the larger creatures (angels) i often wish then brainstorm it on top of my library, which I dont find hard to do.
Any comments, or do you think Im just lucking out with my gaming group?
j
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Re: oath sideboard
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May 20, 2005, 12:56:08 pm »
You should really post your specific deck list, so we can correctly make the SB from there.
Regarding Tabernacle at Pendral Vale this has negative synergy with your combo, they can sac all the tokens you give them and no Oath for you!
As far as Volrath's Stronghold. I don't really think this fits as most of the time if your creatures (Arkoma/Spirit) are in the grave you can't hard cast them and with Swords they are RFG.
Minamo, School at Water's Edge does untap a legend, but Akroma already doesn't tap. And needing to block with Spirit is not vital enough to run it.
Petrified Field while it does return a land from the grave to hand, I don't feel this has enough of an impact in Oath. For lands that produce colorless mana I much prefer Wasteland/Strip Mine as they take care of opposing Orchards/Bazaar/LoA etc… and the dreaded Maze of Ith. Not to mention color screwing.
Viridian Zealot is cool, but not enough of an impact, I would much prefer Woodripper as it's a beat stick and can kill mutli artifacts.
The bad thing about Gilded Drake is that you want to win via you big Oath beats and if they have no creature in play or just a token you are not accomplishing anything.
I really like Eternal Witness in the combo build that Aaron Forsythe played, but not as a random SB card.
Nantuko Tracer, I can see your logic on this. But you want to optimize the deck from a winning prospective. It’s nice to recur the blessing if it was cast, but this is not needed the majority of the time.
Whirlpool Rider, not enough bang for your buck to justify.
Now I will say I haven’t ever played Living Wishes I can see the benefit of being able to get a Waste Land or utility creature and the list of utility creatures listed makes more sense now.
It is sorcery speed and will tap you out main phase. I’d rather have mana up to counter. I really don’t think that butchering the SB for Living Wish is the way to go.
Cunning wish is an excellent control card, and I feel has more overall synergy with the deck, if you are looking for more utility.
Now if you are just playing for fun do what you will, but for the tournament scene I’d stay away from the Living Wish. So all-in-all I’d rather have more hate for other decks than the slew of utility creatures and land in the SB. I prefer your original SB.
I hope this was some what helpful. Good luck and have fun,
Zach
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vartemis
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Re: oath sideboard
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May 20, 2005, 03:03:16 pm »
Ok, I took out out to the local store and got decimated. Lesson learned. Don't mess with what works.
Thanks for the feedback,
j
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Re: oath sideboard
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May 22, 2005, 02:54:31 pm »
something that I've been messing with is two maindeck cunning wishes. here is my sb:
1 ancient hydra
1 pristine angel
1 platinum angel
1 vampiric tutor
1 skeletal scrying
2 ground seal
2 red elemental blast
3 arcane laboratory
2 rack and ruin
the sideboard lets me get around platz game 1 and helps win counter wars and stuff. tutor is for emergency peice finding and whatnot.
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