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Author Topic: Abnegate (not a black card)  (Read 1922 times)
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« on: April 07, 2006, 01:17:14 pm »

This is Boomerang what Abjure is to Counterspell.

Abnegate
{U}
Instant
As an additional cost to play Abnegate, sacrifice a blue permanent.
Return target permanent to its owner's hand.

Also, it combos with Hatching Plans!
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2006, 01:17:51 pm »

Current Wording:

Abnegate
{U}
Instant
As an additional cost to play Abnegate, sacrifice a permanent.
Return target permanent to its owner's hand.
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2006, 02:32:17 pm »

Wow, this card is awful. Abjure at least shaves 1U off the "correct" cost, but this only saves you U, on an effect that isn't even card parity most of the time.
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2006, 03:09:20 pm »

To be fair, Abjure was printed back when Counterspell was a standard benchmark.  Nonetheless, this probably could be printed at UU1 or U2 with sac a blue permanent as an alternative casting cost.
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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2006, 03:41:40 pm »

I like it.
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2006, 08:53:01 pm »

I think you should be able to sac any permanent personally. That way you can sac lands, making this much better, without being broken.
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2006, 10:24:10 pm »

Yeah, I could see:

Abnegate
{U}
Instant
As an additional cost to play Abnegate, sacrifice a permanent.
Return target permanent to its owner's hand.

Although,

Abnegate
{2}{U}
Instant
You may sacrifice a blue permanent rather than pay Abnegate's mana cost.
Return target permanent to its owner's hand.

is interesting...
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2006, 09:29:41 pm »

To be fair, Abjure was printed back when Counterspell was a standard benchmark.  Nonetheless, this probably could be printed at UU1 or U2 with sac a blue permanent as an alternative casting cost.
I like that, at 2U.
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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2006, 09:42:31 pm »

I don't like this at {2}{U} with an alternate casting cost.  It infringes upon Regress, which wasn't printed all that long ago.  With an alternate casting cost, I'd say {1}{U}{U} and/or being a sorcery would be more fair.
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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2006, 09:49:40 pm »

I didn't know about Regress (I didn't bother to search for all Boomerang variants, I just took PucktheCat's suggestion). {2}{U} with an alternate casting cost is obviously strictly better {2}{U} for exactly the same effect. {1}{U}{U} is not unreasonable, but I think making it a sorcery would suck. Matt liked the original version, and in light of Regress, the original version is my favourite so far, maybe without the blue permanent restriction.
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2006, 01:11:17 pm »

The original (with the blue restriction) was a beautiful skill-tester.
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2006, 10:22:03 pm »

Returning a permanent to its owner's hand is not as good as countering a spell. I think I will remove the blue permanent restriction. That way, you can sacrifice an artifact or a land...
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2006, 11:07:58 pm »

Well, it's basically on par with Raze, so I guess I can't really object now. The blue permanent restriction was actually a lot more significant than I think people realize.
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2006, 09:24:30 am »

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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2006, 11:47:38 pm »

Closed and added.[/color]
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