Rector Trix - hey MungMan

[DavidHernandez]

A couple of days ago, a user named Mungman was looking for a Rector Trix build.  I just found his post (which has since been locked), so I'm sorry this is late.

@Mungman: Here is a Rector Trix build.  I know you only have the Ancestral, but you can use this as a skeleton to build what you want to play:

I think Rico Suave ran this build:

Disruption (12)
4 Duress
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Force of Will

Engine (12)
4 Academy Rector
1 Yawgmoth's Bargain
1 Necropotence
3 Illusions of Grandeur
2 Donate
1 Rushing River

Utility (9)
4 Brainstorm
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Yawgmoth's Will

Mana (27)
4 Dark Ritual
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
3 Polluted Delta
2 Flooded Strand
4 Underground Sea
2 Scrubland
3 Gemstone Mine
1 Tolarian Academy

and here is a Hybrid that uses Tendril's of Agony (i can't remember whose build this is):

4 Duress
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Dark Ritual
1 Yawgmoth's Bargain
1 Necropotence
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Demonic Tutor

1 Tendrils of Agony

4 Academy Rector

4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
2 Illusions of Grandeur
2 Donate
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Capsize

1 Lim Duls Vault

1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Vault
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Emerald

3 Gemstone Mine
4 Polluted Delta
4 Underground Sea
3 Scrubland
1 Tolarian Academy

You're in for a rough ride without the Moxes/Lotus, but you can still have a good time...

if anyone wants to comment on these decks, especially how they might be converted to competitive budget decks, please do.

--Dave

[Wollblad]

After I sold my all my cards these decks came up and I decided to start playing again. During the two weeks it took to get full P9, I experimented with decks like these but without power. The Tendrils version does not work without power, but the Trix verison did. The difference was that it took one turn more to put Bargain on the table and another turn extra to finish the kill. This compared to the fully powered verion.

Lacking moxes, almost every other mana acceleration was necessary. I used the following:
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mox Diamond
1 Grim Monolith
4 Dark Ritual
Nowadays you also have Chrome Mox. There is a problem regarding this card in it's bad cardeconomy. Since you can drop only one land per turn, discarding one to Mox diamond wasn't a big problem, but I don't know how if you can afford to remov a spell. Appart from the above mentioned mana cards, I use duals and fetch. I didn't find Gemstone really necessary but please try them if you want to. I also used two copies of Ancient Tomb for added acceleration. It worked rather well, but sometimes they ruined the mana base more than they helped and with Stifle around, it might be worth to consider Gemstone Mine once more. In total I used 27 mana sources.

Ancestral was actually the first power card I got hold of, and it really helped the deck (as it helpes all decks). In the beginning I tried Fact or Fiction as a replacement, but it was too expensive. I have never liked Windfall either since it lacks synnergy with all discard. Instead I put a Balance in main to slow my opponent down. As it is also an additional way to saccrifice your Rectors, it is worth maindecking. In the top decklist above I cannot understand why there is no Mystical Tutor. Use that one to replace Time Walk. Instead of Rushing River, you could also try Seal of Clensing since it is fetchable with Rectors.

[Fubar]

I found having one tundra with the fetches can be a very good thing, just in case.  Also, gemstones are essential to wipping off a three colour control/combo deck nowadays.  If the gemstones are being used up, you are taking too long to win.  But in order for the gemstones to be solid, you need all the power acceleration, so you don't have to use garbage like ancient tomb.  I tried taking out the power, and you are totally right, the tendrills usually end up lacking

[crazzykid81083]

Like i said in the other post mungman is my old screen name on themanadrain.com the deckilist was almost a year and a half old currently i do have power and i run the tendrils version and without power makes no diffrence just add tinker and collossus.

[Fubar]

But without power how do you reliably tinker?  It doesn't seem to work for me using only second tier artifact sources such as petal or vault.  Besides that this deck doesn't seem to need artifacts.  But with the power I was reliably using it (although it was a while ago & I was more concerned about mem jar at the time)  But even that was flawed if you lost your bargain because of the jar.

[crazzykid81083]

ITs wierd un-powered i play

mana crypt
lotus petal
mox diamond
mana vault
grim monolith
sol ring
lions eye diamond
DSL
4-academy rector
4-cabal therapy
4-duress
4-dark ritual
demonic tutor
vampiric tutor
tendrils of agaony
yawgmoth bargain
yawgmoth will
4-FOW
2-donate
2-illusions
2-cunning wish
minds desire
4-brainstorm
mystical tutor
frantic search
4-pollutted delta
2-flooded strand
3-underground sea
3-scrubland
2-tundra
tolarian academy
RUN RETRACT IN THE SIDEBOARD
the decks done very well for me few tweeks could still be done here and there but for me latest ive combod is turn 5

[Fubar]

I don't see what the LED combos with besides will.  I also advise running 3 illusions because it does give you 20 life, thus fuelling the almighty bargain, or just buying you a turn or two against an aggro deck eating your life.  Plus if you have the extra illusions (thus buing you a turn) you might get lucky and dig or find a donate, without the whole rector/bargain shebang.  Also get your hands on a balance if you can, alot of playerhaters dis it in a maindeck rector build, but it is one of the most powerful pieces of cardboard ive ever owned...  If you don't mind more advice, I recomend 3 scrubs & only one tundra, as you need black mana more than blue on turn one due to 4duress4therapy.
Man do I love a deck with 4duress4therapy main

[crazzykid81083]

For one this wasn't my power build heres the powerbuild list
Black Lotus
Mox diamond
Mox jet
Mox pearl
Mox sapphire
Lotus petal
Sol ring
Mana vault
Grim monolith
4-Cabal therapy
3-duress
1-Tendrils
1-Demonic
1-Vampiric
4-Dark ritual
1-Bargain of goodness
1-Yawgmoth-WIN
2-Donate
2-Illusions
1-Ancestral
1-Timewalk
1-minds desire BROKEN
4-Brainstorm
1-frantic search
2-FOW
4-academy rector
1-Tolarian Academy
1-Basajou
4-polluted delta
4-underground sea
3-scrubland
2-tundra
Certain things change depending on possible matchups other cards I run maindeck are
FLUCTUATION CARDS sometimes in or out depending
Duress
FOW
Stiffle
Cunning wish Depends on if i need graveyard or stiffle or red hate cards
balance- If i know alot of goblins or white weenie
Tinker and DCS- always good mainly a sideboard choice
retract in the board with wishs for desire and tendrils
Hope this helps ya a bit.

[Fubar]

whoa bro,  when on planet earth do you not run FOW main?  To me the beauty of rectortrix is the full set of fow, therapy & duress.  i'll of course lose the duress in certain situations (al la food chai & affinity)  but i'll never lose the fow.  In my powered build i'd also rather have the off colour moxen than stuff like monolith.  To be frank, there are not many multi-colour decks i've played that wouldn't rather have off colour moxen than stuff like monolith & diamond.  Power is power
But I do hear where your comming from, I run hurkyl recall main because of my meta

[crazzykid81083]

It's just lately when Im playing stuff usually a duress followed by therapy cleans house before I go off. I would rather draw combo needed stuff alot of the time rather than FOW. That and when you combo off by turn 2-3 your opponent really hasn't had alot of time to get the draw engine up, that and the deck accelerates mana and a really fast pace with 28 mana sources and there's equal arifacts and rituals to land. Once you break the rector with a therapy and bargain hits's the table GAME OVER always.

[Fubar]

Yeah, duress then therapy truley does clean house, that much disruption is rank, especially now that most of the t1 decks I play seem almost like singleton decks nowadays. . .  I think a certain psychological type of player naturally gravitates towards that much of a disruption playstyle.
I guess the meat off the question is whether you want towards a more pure combo build or combo/control role, my posts have been because I choose the latter.  I just can't justify playing pure combo rector trix over decks like TPS.  And yes, when bargain hit the table (barring bs life loss to aggro decks) it's totally partytime :lol: