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« on: September 23, 2005, 10:07:51 am » |
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I have no idea where we discuss single card strategies on this site so I thought i'd post it here.
This is an amazing little gem from Ravinca that yells "Break me!" from the rooftops. Question is: Can it be done?
Here's the card:
Cloudstone Curio - 3
Artifact
Whenever a nonartifact permanent comes into play under your control, you may return another permanent you control that shares a permanent type with it to its owner's hand.
Rare
Apart from the obvious Kobold/Glimpse/Curio interaction and various associated tricks, can this find a place in T1?
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2005, 01:14:07 pm » |
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Maybe we could use this card in a Turbo-Land deck. Lands will come back untapped. In the same way, you can combine this with When comes into play creatures like Eternal Witness; in the Standard format. This card worth the look, if this can find a place in T1, I can't answer.
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2005, 12:33:50 pm » |
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my initial thoughts on this card were pretty grim:
1) Using 186 creatures w/ CIP abilities only gives you a worse version of an Aluren deck.
2) Turboland would be some good, but Crucible/Zuran Orb gives you the same effect.
3) Creatures with tap abilites (Elves, Juicy Apprentice) need a way to gain haste. This is the least problematic situation to deal with, so there might be some potential here.
BTW the Glimpse/Kobold idea is saucy...I wish I thought of it.
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2005, 07:17:41 am » |
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I will be running them in my casual enchantress combo deck. Play an exploration, return a wild growth, draw some cards, play exploration land, play wildgrowth on it, return exploration, draw some cards...
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2005, 12:12:38 pm » |
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I can see a new pebbles type deck appearing with this card.
Using the kobold clamp idea, except more controllish with tutors, and countermagic. Basically a combo control deck, instead of the classic Kobold clamp deck.
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2005, 06:01:52 pm » |
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Hold on, what?
As far as I knew, one of the few strengths of K. Clamp is that it can combo out quickly.
If you're going to dilute that speed in favor of consistency a la stronger control elements, why not just play something like TPS?
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2005, 06:52:26 pm » |
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Hold on, what?
As far as I knew, one of the few strengths of K. Clamp is that it can combo out quickly.Â
If you're going to dilute that speed in favor of consistency a la stronger control elements, why not just play something like TPS?
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2005, 02:56:42 am » |
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U/B/g Kobold deck with Cloudstone Curio, Glimpse of Nature, tons of accel, Force of Will, and maindeck Brain Freeze sounds strong. Black Lotus and a Mox in the opening grip can kill on turn 1 with a Curio, two 0-costers, and a Brain Freeze. The ability to run Force should help with some of the problems I've had in the past with B/G Kobolds. Midterms are putting a cramp in my testing style, but I may throw a list together and get on MWS this weekend. In the meantime, does anyone have a list yet?
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2005, 01:46:19 pm » |
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how about 2 cloud of faeries and a curio fora brian freeze win ? bonus points since the deck can be mono blue if you want  |
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