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« on: January 24, 2006, 02:14:22 pm » |
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Elvish Drummer  {G} Creature - Elf Tap: Add 1 to your mana pool. Whenever you tap ~this~ for mana, destroy target artifact with converted mana cost equal to the amount of mana in your mana pool. 1/1 Easy enough concept, I wanted an artifact killer that doesn't get shut down by Pithing Needle. It also has a Shuriken-like ability to let you kill 0cc artifacts by using the Drummer to pay the cost of a spell/effect as you play it. Elvish Drummer
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Creature - Elf
Tap: Add 1 to your mana pool.
Whenever you tap ~this~ for mana, you may destroy target artifact if its converted mana cost is equal to the amount of mana in your mana pool.
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Anusien
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2006, 05:01:19 pm » |
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Interesting, but the stack rules worry me, simply because you're putting a triggered ability onto a mana ability. Whether you tap the guy during the casting of a spell or tap him for mana before you cast the spell is an important but subtle distinction that I'm worried may be a little too difficult for wide print.
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2006, 03:54:30 am » |
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Very similar, only not, ofcourse:
-Datatog- Glissa Sunseeker {2GG} |Legendary Creature -- Elf| 3/2. First strike / T: Destroy target artifact if its converted mana cost is equal to the amount of mana in your mana pool. MRD-R [Legal in Vin Leg Ext.]
Should take care of Anusien's worries though, I guess.
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2006, 12:18:57 pm » |
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Interesting, but the stack rules worry me, simply because you're putting a triggered ability onto a mana ability. Whether you tap the guy during the casting of a spell or tap him for mana before you cast the spell is an important but subtle distinction that I'm worried may be a little too difficult for wide print.
Setting up a trigger on mana abilities has been done before, at least once. (Manabarbs) I think it adds a little extra power for players who can figure out how to use it properly. Also, it can't hit 0cc artifacts without that bit. |
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2006, 12:46:21 am » |
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Interesting, but the stack rules worry me, simply because you're putting a triggered ability onto a mana ability. Whether you tap the guy during the casting of a spell or tap him for mana before you cast the spell is an important but subtle distinction that I'm worried may be a little too difficult for wide print.
Also, it can't hit 0cc artifacts without that bit. You can't play a G spell with this, and then target a mox? Wouldn't there be no mana in your pool when the ability resolves? |
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2006, 11:34:05 am » |
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Interesting, but the stack rules worry me, simply because you're putting a triggered ability onto a mana ability. Whether you tap the guy during the casting of a spell or tap him for mana before you cast the spell is an important but subtle distinction that I'm worried may be a little too difficult for wide print.
Also, it can't hit 0cc artifacts without that bit. You can't play a G spell with this, and then target a mox? Wouldn't there be no mana in your pool when the ability resolves? With the original wording at the top, you wouldn't be able to target the mox as you announce the ability. Edit: Wait, yes you could. I'm an idiot. :/ |
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2006, 03:28:43 pm » |
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Is there any reason why you must do this? Adding "may" might solve it, although I don't know whether you want this:
Whenever you tap ~this~ for mana, you may destroy target artifact with converted mana cost equal to the amount of mana in your mana pool.
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2006, 03:16:37 pm » |
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It seems to me that, in order to avoid all kinds of weird timing issues with the targeting stuff, why don't you just say "Whenever you tap ~this~ for mana, you may destroy target artifact if its converted mana cost is equal to the amount of mana in your mana pool." That lets you target any artifact you want (so you dont have to worry about tapping him during the announcement of a spell in order to kill a mox, etc.) and you still get the desired Glissa effect, without requiring very specific knowledge of spell timing rules.
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2006, 03:08:32 pm » |
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Elvish Drummer {G} Creature - Elf Tap: Add 1 to your mana pool. Whenever you tap ~this~ for mana, you may destroy target artifact if its converted mana cost is equal to the amount of mana in your mana pool. 1/1 That seems to be the slickest wording I've seen for this effect. I'll add it to the top. |
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