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Author Topic: [Free Article!!!] Vintage for Beginners: Jargon and Essentials!  (Read 2465 times)
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« on: June 05, 2006, 10:50:08 am »

http://www.starcitygames.com/php/news/article/12056.html

My editor asked for this article some time ago… no one else followed through, so it fell to me. A Vintage primer, for those looking to begin playing Magic’s most venerable format…

EDIT: Premium subscribers, do not worry, I have a very useful premium article scheduled for later this week on SCG Rochester.  You'll get your money's worth.  Trust me.
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2006, 01:35:55 pm »

I was really waiting for the section on "SAVAGE."
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2006, 02:44:59 pm »

A nice article, this sort of thing is always good for Vintage. What I would have liked to see a little more of is an explanation of the major archetypes. Vintage isn't a rock-paper-scissors metagame so it can be quite confusing coming into it. A breakdown of the major archetypes (Gifts, CS, Stax, Oath, Fish, Ichorid) with some of the central cards in each. I understand it gets harder with the proliferation of variants, but discussing some of the basic strategy could be a good basis for a second article.
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2006, 02:45:59 pm »

nice article.

too bad here in europe proxi tournaments are non existant to very rare.

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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2006, 03:05:29 pm »

Nice article.  I was just wondering, why is Tinker in the "mid-range" price cards when YawgWill and Demonic are in the cheap section.  Was this just a mistake?
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2006, 04:07:06 pm »

I agree with scutakicker. It's very hard to know what Vintage is about as a new player. It's easy enough to get the general idea of stax, CS and oath but the rest are hard to figure out just by looking at a list (okay maybe i'm just dumb) but the articles I have read on what different archetypes' goals are have been very helpful.
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2006, 04:55:07 pm »

I was really waiting for the section on "SAVAGE."

things like "savage" and "mize" and other random terms "beatdown", "187" etc, all are far too much "general" magic terminology that goes WAAAAYYYY back to newsgroup days and would be far too long of an article. 

Trying to decipher the following to a non-experience magic player is near impossible:

Player 1: ...and so I drew like ass and made the completely wrong decisions all game long.

Player 2: So you lost?

Player 1: Actually, I mized a 187 creature off the top and then laid a savage beatdown with it.


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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2006, 07:21:04 pm »

I was really waiting for the section on "SAVAGE."



Player 1: Actually, I mized a 187 creature off the top and then laid a savage beatdown with it.


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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2006, 08:04:02 pm »

Bah.  Its all about the Man-O-War Very Happy
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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2006, 08:55:05 pm »

Bah. Its all about the Man-O-War Very Happy

man o war technically does not "187" a creature... But it's another classic Wink
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2006, 09:14:39 pm »

Bah. Its all about the Man-O-War Very Happy

man o war technically does not "187" a creature... But it's another classic Wink

I an pretty sure "187" was the term for all "come into play" creatures...
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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2006, 10:31:42 pm »

Bah. Its all about the Man-O-War Very Happy

man o war technically does not "187" a creature... But it's another classic Wink

I an pretty sure "187" was the term for all "come into play" creatures...

187 is the police scanner code for homicide; anything 187 usually means kill, so in magic it is usually a destroy effect like boneshredder or lethal damage like flametongue kavu.

i've heard "CIP" for any comes into play creature, but not 187.
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2006, 10:47:01 pm »

When I first started browzing TheManaDrain, trying to make my no proxy Dragon Deck (with Buried Alive/Dark Rituals) work better, it took about 3 months to understand the lingo that went on.

Nice article.
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