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Prometheon
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Counterbalance Question
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July 30, 2006, 03:57:44 pm »
Lets say I have Counterbalance in play and my opponenet plays a mox. I flip a land as the top card of my library; is the mox countered? Is having no CMC the same as having a CMC of 0?
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netherspirit
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Re: Counterbalance Question
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July 30, 2006, 04:02:08 pm »
CMC of 0 is still a CMC, whereas not having a CMC is just not having a CMC, so the mox would resolve.
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Re: Counterbalance Question
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July 30, 2006, 08:38:09 pm »
I belive that's wrong. The CMC of a token is 0, just because there's no 0 up in the corner of a land does not mean the land flipped would have a CMC of 0. Antoher point is with Dark Confidant, the CMC of a land is 0, thus you don't take damage.
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Re: Counterbalance Question
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July 30, 2006, 09:24:49 pm »
The Mox would be countered. Whenever the game asks for a value which is undefined, the game returns a value of zero. This applies to CMCs as well as to creature cards like Lhurgoyf (when they're not in play).
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Re: Counterbalance Question
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July 30, 2006, 10:11:55 pm »
Every card has a converted mana cost.
203.1a. Lands normally have no mana cost. Tokens have no mana cost unless the effect that creates them specifies otherwise. A copy of an object copies that object's mana cost.
When there is no value for something that's asked, such as converted mana cost, it defaults to zero.
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