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Machinus
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« on: May 31, 2006, 02:56:11 am »

Originally I thought of a 4/0 for 1W, but I think this is neater.


Legion's Pride
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Creature -- Knight Spirit
If you control another white creature, Legion's Pride gets +0/+1.
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2006, 08:51:41 am »

I think that you're going a little bit too far with this card.  I really like the flavour of this card, but having another white creature in play is not such a huge drawback that it merits giving white a 3/1 creature for one mana.  I think that starting this off as a 2/0 and giving it +0/+1 or +0/+2 if you control another white creature would be more reasonable.
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2006, 09:53:28 am »

I think its a good card.

having another creature is a severe drawback, hence it isnt too powerfull.

look at emperor crocodile, 4mana for a 5/5 is great, but if the other creature gets killed, you lose it. same is true for this one.

a 2/0 would suck, because people would play safe and use savanah lions or the hound.
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2006, 12:58:18 pm »

What about 2/0 that gets +1/+1? It's the same with other creatures, but weaker if you use enchantments to boost the toughness.

Think about it like this. White gets a 2/1 for {W} and 2/2 legendary for {W}. A 3/1 is better than this, but a 3/0 is actually worse. The toughness clause makes it so that you can't drop this on turn 1. It also constrains the deckbuilding options for this card, and means the deck will be more vulnerable to mass removal. I actually think Ismaru is better than this creature.
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2006, 01:10:32 pm »

I think a 2/0 with a +1/+1 boost would probably be too powerful at this cost. I like the original version, it's not exactly hard to kill. It seems really fair without being too weak to see play.
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2006, 02:30:49 pm »

"Pride" in the name strongly suggests that this is a lion. Since "pride" is the collective term for lions, how about "~this~ gets +1/+1 if you control another Cat"? That makes it kind of tribal, which prevents it from being too strong. White has a lot of cats.

5/5 for four is a lot worse than 3/1 for one.
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2006, 03:19:27 pm »

might be true, but I know that I wouldnt mind playing agaisnt the 3/1s.

just bounce, or kill the other creature, and 2 die, thats 2-1 card advantage.

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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2006, 01:05:15 am »

What about 2/0 that gets +1/+1? It's the same with other creatures, but weaker if you use enchantments to boost the toughness.

Think about it like this. White gets a 2/1 for {W} and 2/2 legendary for {W}. A 3/1 is better than this, but a 3/0 is actually worse. The toughness clause makes it so that you can't drop this on turn 1. It also constrains the deckbuilding options for this card, and means the deck will be more vulnerable to mass removal. I actually think Ismaru is better than this creature.

I think when you look at the aggregate quality of Ismaru in a variety of situations, it may be better.  On the other hand, this is much swingier in the situations where it applies.  Not being able to play this on turn one is not the drawback you think it is.  After all, there will be many games when you don't have this in your hand on turn one.  On the other hand, it will occur more frequently that in the mid game, you'll be able to randomly drop a 3/1 creature on the table without interrupting any of your other plans.
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