TheManaDrain.com
August 01, 2026, 07:36:29 am *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News:
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Baffling Hypnotist  (Read 2642 times)
Illissius
3CB #96 & #97 Champion
Basic User
**
Posts: 377


formerly radagast-

Illissius
View Profile
« on: July 16, 2006, 10:33:42 pm »

Baffling Hypnotist
{U}
Creature -- Wizard
1/1
As Baffling Hypnotist comes into play, name a card.
The named card can't be named.

That one of the inspirations for this was Meddling Mage should be obvious. And "the named card can't be named" is an awesome sentence, so I had to use it.
Note that this can be used not just to foil Cabal Therapy, Meddling Mage, Cranial Extraction, et al, but also to interfere with cards like Demonic Consultation.

Is there anything better for him (her?) to be than a Hypnotist?
Baffling Bathmage?


current version

Baffling Hypnotist
{U}
Creature -- Human Wizard
1/1
As Baffling Hypnotist comes into play, name a card.
The named card can't be named. (Effects saying "name a card" can't name the card.)
« Last Edit: July 19, 2006, 07:30:46 pm by Illissius » Logged

Trying is the first step toward failure.
Work is punishment for failing to procrastinate effectively.
last.fm
Matt
Post like a butterfly, Mod like a bee.
Moderator
Basic User
*****
Posts: 2297


King of the Jews!


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2006, 12:21:42 am »

Hahahahaha, this is great. I love it. I may even have a good place to use it!
Logged

http://www.goodgamery.com/pmo/c025.GIF
----------------------
SpenceForHire2k7: Its unessisary
SpenceForHire2k7: only spelled right
SpenceForHire2k7: <= world english teach evar
----------------------
noitcelfeRmaeT
{Team Hindsight}
asi
Basic User
**
Posts: 186



View Profile Email
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2006, 07:06:13 am »

Hahahahaha

Good to read that again in the internet, much better than "lolz" or "rofl" or even  :lol: .

The card is just great, I enjoy it the same way I enjoyed Obstinate Familiar (which is tech against Solidarity, and mo one knows it). It isn't very powerful, but it could be incredible funny against decks running both mages and Cabal Therapy. Should have some flavor text, I think.
Logged
Harlequin
Full Members
Basic User
***
Posts: 1860


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2006, 07:38:36 am »

"Not-It-No-Take-Backs!!"

And have picture of a wizard with his hand on his nose with his other hand, fingers crossed, raised over his head.
Logged

Member of Team ~ R&D ~
Anusien
Adepts
Basic User
****
Posts: 3669


Anusien
View Profile
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2006, 08:24:36 am »

Is naming a card different than announcing it to play it?  What about choosing which card you take with Duress?

This is cute (although a little too strong at U), but very very interesting.  I just hope we can iron out the rules issues.
Logged

Magic Level 3 Judge
Southern USA Regional Coordinator

Quote from: H.L. Mencken
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.
Harlequin
Full Members
Basic User
***
Posts: 1860


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2006, 08:44:56 am »

I would think it would be ruled similar to the way things become "Untargetable"  as in If it doesn't actually use the word "Target" then it doesn't Target.  So to extrapolate:  If the card doesn't spesifically use the words "Name a Card" (like duress which says "choose" a card) then It would not be effected by this card.

Effected Cards:
~This Card~ (in so much as you couldn't name the same card twice)
Meddling Mage
Pithing Needle
Cabal Therapy
Demonic Consultation
Spoils of the Vault
Cranial Extraction

Similar Cards that would not be effected:
Duress
Tainted Pact
Extract
Logged

Member of Team ~ R&D ~
Illissius
3CB #96 & #97 Champion
Basic User
**
Posts: 377


formerly radagast-

Illissius
View Profile
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2006, 09:39:22 am »

Yeah, my thinking was the same as Harlequin's. It would work like Shadow of Doubt:

Quote
10/1/2005 If an effect says "You may search your library . . . If you do, shuffle your library," you can't choose to search since it's impossible, and you won't shuffle.
10/1/2005 If an effect says "Search your library . . . Then shuffle your library," the search effect fails, but you will have to shuffle.
10/1/2005 Since players can't search, players won't be able to find any cards in a library. The effect applies to all players and all libraries. If a spell or ability's effect has other parts that don't depend on searching for or finding cards, they will still work normally.
10/1/2005 Effects that tell a player to reveal cards from a library or look at cards from the top of a library will still work. Only effects that use the word "search" will fail.

Just replace "search" with "name".

"Not-It-No-Take-Backs!!"

And have picture of a wizard with his hand on his nose with his other hand, fingers crossed, raised over his head.

I love the art concept, but don't grok the flavor text.
Logged

Trying is the first step toward failure.
Work is punishment for failing to procrastinate effectively.
last.fm
zeus-online
Adepts
Basic User
****
Posts: 1807


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2006, 10:12:04 am »

Love it! Smile
I dont see any power-level issues.

/Zeus
Logged

The truth is an elephant described by three blind men.
Matt
Post like a butterfly, Mod like a bee.
Moderator
Basic User
*****
Posts: 2297


King of the Jews!


View Profile
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2006, 12:19:05 pm »

Is naming a card different than announcing it to play it?  What about choosing which card you take with Duress?

This is cute (although a little too strong at U), but very very interesting.  I just hope we can iron out the rules issues.
Yes, they're different, so this does not have any rules issues. It will probably need reminder text but that's not a big deal.
Logged

http://www.goodgamery.com/pmo/c025.GIF
----------------------
SpenceForHire2k7: Its unessisary
SpenceForHire2k7: only spelled right
SpenceForHire2k7: <= world english teach evar
----------------------
noitcelfeRmaeT
{Team Hindsight}
Illissius
3CB #96 & #97 Champion
Basic User
**
Posts: 377


formerly radagast-

Illissius
View Profile
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2006, 07:36:01 pm »

Updated with reminder text.

I don't think this is at all overpowered. It only affects a very limited subset of cards, and it doesn't even neuter them, only prevents them from naming a specific card. They can still name anything else.

I'm still hoping someone can come up with a cooler thing for her (I've decided it's a her) to be than a Hypnotist. I really like Bathmage, but that's obviously not appropriate.
EDIT - Or maybe it could be a Cat of some sort. Baffling Bobcat? I've always wanted to make a blue Cat. (They clearly are.)
« Last Edit: July 19, 2006, 08:41:49 pm by Illissius » Logged

Trying is the first step toward failure.
Work is punishment for failing to procrastinate effectively.
last.fm
Darkenslight
Basic User
**
Posts: 314


View Profile Email
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2006, 01:04:18 pm »

current version

Baffling Hypnotist
{U}
Creature -- Human Wizard
1/1
As Baffling Hypnotist comes into play, name a card.
The named card can't be named. (Effects saying "name a card" can't name the card.)


I'd recommend something like a Fox Wizard for the creature type,  the name could be Spintail Hypnotist, and flavor text?  WEll:

"You'll be asleep when I count to three."
Logged
Venven
Basic User
**
Posts: 1


View Profile
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2006, 06:19:13 pm »

I love this card, very nice mechanic. But for a card that would have to be rare (too narrow) it doesn't do enough. But the cost needs to be kept at U or 1U to be an effective hoser, so the strength of any extra ability would need to be limited. Maybe add on "Whenever the named card is played, draw a card."? This would emphasize the cards tendency to be played defensively; opposite Cabal Therapy, Meddling Mage, Pithing Needle, etc. What that would do to the flavour text, I have no idea. And, then again, maybe it's perfect as is... I would hate to ruin it's elegance.
« Last Edit: July 26, 2006, 06:38:26 pm by Venven » Logged
asi
Basic User
**
Posts: 186



View Profile Email
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2006, 06:44:16 pm »

And, then again, maybe it's perfect as is... I would hate to ruin it's elegance.

I think it's perfect as it is- I'm a big fan of Obstinate Familiar, and both are quite similiar. Adding any other bonuses would make the card too good and would likely take away the fun that is in the card.
Logged
Liam-K
Full Members
Basic User
***
Posts: 394



View Profile
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2006, 12:49:07 am »

+1 for fine as is
Logged

An invisible web of whispers
Spread out over dead-end streets
Silently blessing the virtue of sleep

Ihsahn - Called By The Fire
Shock Wave
Adepts
Basic User
****
Posts: 1436



View Profile
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2006, 07:49:25 am »

Great idea! I like it as-is too.
Logged

"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat." 
- Theodore Roosevelt
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.107 seconds with 22 queries.