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« on: July 30, 2006, 11:59:24 am »

Guardian Spirit
2WW
Creature - Spirit
2/2
Flying, vigilance
Tap an untapped white creature you control: Target creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.
You may play Guardian Spirit whenever you could play an instant if you discard a card as you play it or if you spend [1] more to play it.


This is a creature that I think fits white's flavor pretty well. White now is supposed to have the best fliers, so basically this is an instant speed Phantom Monster/Diving Griffin for 2WW, which makes it acceptable for white to play in a control deck. But its universal Ghost Warden ability makes it also powerful in a deck with a lot of white creatures, making combat hard for your opponent. So it attempts to be an all-around creature that you could play in many decks.
Edit: Name Guardian Spirit replaces the already taken Luminous Guardian.
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2006, 12:19:37 pm »

This has a lot of abilities. I think you should drop the instant-speed, which isn't very white.
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2006, 12:33:03 pm »


This is a creature that I think fits white's flavor pretty well. White now is supposed to have the best fliers, so basically this is an instant speed Phantom Monster/Diving Griffin for 2WW, which makes it acceptable for white to play in a control deck. But its universal Ghost Warden ability makes it also powerful in a deck with a lot of white creatures, making combat hard for your opponent. So it attempts to be an all-around creature that you could play in many decks.

It is an instant speed 2WW Phantom Monster with a good ability, which is slightly too good in my opinion. I think the Vigilance should be dropped; it could still block as a 3/3 and be pumped by other creature, so it would remain playable.

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This has a lot of abilities. I think you should drop the instant-speed, which isn't very white.

White has a lot of instant-speed pump- and protection enchantments. This is a pump effect and an istant blocker, somethinh that white can have at instant speed, and which makes total sense on this card.
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2006, 12:43:47 pm »

Searching for "any time you could play an instant" in standard, we find:

Blessing of Leeches
Grifter's Blade
Guardian's Magemark
Indomitable Will
King Cheetah
Kumano's Blessing
Masako the Humorless
Mystic Restraints
Patron of the Akki
Patron of the Kitsune
Patron of the Moon
Patron of the Nezumi
Patron of the Orochi
Plaxmanta
Quicken
Ragged Veins
Serpent Skin
Silverstorm Samurai
Uncontrollable Anger

If we take out the cycles (Patrons and the CHK auras)...

Blessing of Leeches (B)
Grifter's Blade (A)
Guardian's Magemark (W)
King Cheetah (G)
Kumano's Blessing (R)
Masako the Humorless (W)
Plaxmanta (U)
Quicken (U)
Silverstorm Samurai (W)

So I guess it's slightly white, but it's really an ability shared by all colors. It makes sense, but the card is almost certainly too powerful with this many abilities. It would have to be rare, which defeats the purpose of making a card for limited. It either needs to lose the instant speed, or BOTH flying and vigilance.
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2006, 01:24:49 pm »


So I guess it's slightly white, but it's really an ability shared by all colors. It makes sense, but the card is almost certainly too powerful with this many abilities. It would have to be rare, which defeats the purpose of making a card for limited. It either needs to lose the instant speed, or BOTH flying and vigilance.

I'm a little dimwitted today, but I don't understand the complaint about limited. Do you mean this card should be Limited-Material? Because I would agree to it being rare (and lose the Vigilance, which is also overused on white cards nowadays), but I don't see the problem of that, because not every card has to be a limited-staple (and Rares are played in limited, too, in different quantities. They are just not part of any pre-game considerations, just a luck-factor [except in coldsnap]).

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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2006, 02:05:01 pm »

I'm sorry, I was under the impression that this card was made for limited (several other cards today are, so I guess it rubbed off). I still think it's too many abilities though.
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2006, 03:39:45 pm »

umm im not sure if anybody noticed but Luminous Guardian is a real card... its in Odyssey, so you should change the name. also it has to many abilities for 4 mana i suggest making it   {2} {W} {W} {W}
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2006, 07:47:07 pm »

I think I'll make the instant speed cost an extra 1 colorless or an extra card, rather than change any of the abilities.
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2006, 08:00:32 pm »

Umm dude read the format of how you post cards, you make the original one then at the bottom of the post rite the current wording, so we can see the changes

also for a name:

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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2006, 09:41:41 pm »

Making the rules text even longer was not exactly what I had in mind. ;D
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