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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2006, 12:26:44 pm » |
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This was a long time coming.
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2006, 02:12:02 pm » |
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This was a long time coming.
My two astronomy profs in college were of the same mind....as for what it affects - nothing really, other than the printing of some textbooks. It's semantics. |
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2006, 02:12:24 pm » |
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2006, 03:10:13 pm » |
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2006, 03:41:31 pm » |
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Not smart. You just don't do this to the God of the Underworld. GG, science.
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2006, 04:03:07 pm » |
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Not smart. You just don't do this to the God of the Underworld. GG, science.
It's not like the Romans were ever very serious about the Greek gods anyway. Man, it would be sweet if the planets had the Greek names, though. We'd be arguing about whether Hades was a planet or not! |
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2006, 04:52:12 pm » |
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Not smart. You just don't do this to the God of the Underworld. GG, science.
Fortunately, it will take forever for this news to get to the former planet (since it's so freaking far away), so we will all have time to die in the meantime and let our children take the responsibility for us. |
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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2006, 12:42:51 am » |
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Maybe Pluto got drunk and randomly flammed Rich Shay for no good reason...
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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2006, 12:52:33 am » |
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Maybe Pluto got drunk and randomly flammed Rich Shay for no good reason... In that case, Pluto will be re-promoted to Planet Adept by month's end.  |
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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2006, 01:07:25 am » |
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What?
I heard on the grapevine that Pluto acually kept its status, and two other planetoids (the moon Ceres and the "iceberg" Xena) were upgraded to the status of planets because a change in the definition of 'planet' that resulted in us now having 12 instead of 9. Or did they invent a new subgroup of planets for those three?
How cool that there's misinformation about something like this. Either way, this is gonna mean lots of work for astrologers (more than for astronomers, anyway ;-)
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« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2006, 01:12:32 am » |
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Maybe Pluto got drunk and randomly flammed Rich Shay for no good reason... In that case, Pluto will be re-promoted to Planet Adept by month's end. lol! |
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« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2006, 02:27:29 am » |
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"Although we think it's Dopey that Pluto has been downgraded to a dwarf planet, which has made some people Grumpy and others just Sleepy, we are not Bashful in saying we would be Happy if Disney's Pluto would join us as an eighth dwarf. We think this is just what the Doc ordered and is nothing to Sneeze at." Quoted from Eonline.com I think. |
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« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2006, 02:50:42 am » |
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Not smart. You just don't do this to the God of the Underworld. GG, science.
If being depicted as a clumsy animated dog didn't annoy the God of the Underworld, it is unlikely that classifying a lump of rock as a slightly different lump of rock will bug her. |
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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2006, 08:02:34 am » |
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I actually think they now make a difference between a planet and a dwarf planet. has something to do with the path something has around the body it rotates about. I heard on the grapevine that Pluto acually kept its status, and two other planetoids (the moon Ceres and the "iceberg" Xena) were upgraded to the status of planets because a change in the definition of 'planet' that resulted in us now having 12 instead of 9. Or did they invent a new subgroup of planets for those three? Could be they all three are now considered dwarf planets. Three more dwarfs, now where does Snowwhite sleep. |
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« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2006, 01:45:08 pm » |
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They wanted to define planet as any mass that orbits a sun and has enough mass for its gravity to shape it into a spheroid. This would keep Pluto a planet and make Charon (its moon), Ceres (an asteroid between Mars and Jupiter) and Xena a planet. They defined planet this way instead: any mass that orbits a sun, has enough mass for its gravity to shape it into a spheroid, and have enough gravity to clear its own orbit. So because Pluto doesn't have its own orbit (it shares one with Neptune), it's not a planet.
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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2006, 03:37:14 pm » |
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They wanted to define planet as any mass that orbits a sun and has enough mass for its gravity to shape it into a spheroid. This would keep Pluto a planet and make Charon (its moon), Ceres (an asteroid between Mars and Jupiter) and Xena a planet. They defined planet this way instead: any mass that orbits a sun, has enough mass for its gravity to shape it into a spheroid, and have enough gravity to clear its own orbit. So because Pluto doesn't have its own orbit (it shares one with Neptune), it's not a planet.
Trouble is, whether any planet has 'cleared its own orbit' is questionable - Earth is still at risk from some large chunks of rock floating out there, and so by that definition, Earth could be argued not to be planet. Also, that stipulation carries the additional problem that the younger the planetary system, the bigger something needs to be to gain planethood. I think there's going to be a whole load of wrangling over this, and that definition of a planet might be revised, but the essence of the decision will remain intact. Pluto losing its planethood is pretty clearly the right call - it's just a pretty unremarkable Kuiper Belt object which was found basically by accident because someone was looking for an as-yet undiscovered 'planet X' which was gravitationally affecting the orbit of Neptune. He spotted Pluto in roughly the right area, but later we found that Pluto is waaay too small to have any real effect on Neptune. There are bigger rocks out there in the Kuiper belt, and so unless we wanted to give planethood to Ceres (biggest Asteroid), Charon (Pluto's moon), and a bunch random rocks in the outer Solar System, it only makes sense to draw the line so that Pluto and other Kuiper belt objects are excluded. Who wants to have to teach schoolkids that there are 20+ planets, but only 8 count for anything? Who wants to have to make a distinction between "planets which matter", (as in gas giants and inner system worlds), and "planets which don't" (Pluto, Ceres, Charon, other bits of junk in the Kuiper Belt)? |
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« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2006, 03:57:25 pm » |
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These guidelines are pretty clear. Pluto has been the odd man out for a while.
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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2006, 04:09:34 pm » |
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Earth could be argued not to be planet. I've been arguing that for years, but on completely different grounds. |
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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2006, 04:18:28 pm » |
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My definition for planet is whether Unicorn will try to eat it.
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2006, 06:55:15 pm » |
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My definition for planet is whether Unicorn will try to eat it.
Does Uranus count as a planet in your system then? I suppose it would, if he had a kinky fetish or was really drunk and felt like experimenting. |
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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2006, 07:14:06 pm » |
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No, Uranus gives him gas.
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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2006, 07:16:03 pm » |
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You know, I just realized the typo I made two posts back, but it's honestly a LOT funnier if I just leave it, and I think that justifies this double-post.
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« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2006, 02:52:20 am » |
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My definition for planet is whether Unicorn will try to eat it. <3 (Oh, and it's Unicron by the way, not Unicorn. But then again, who cares but me?)  |
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« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2006, 02:58:26 am » |
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Obviously I do. But Galactus has also been suggested as an arbiter.
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« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2006, 09:48:23 am » |
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That's no moon. That's a space station!
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« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2006, 10:20:45 am » |
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(Oh, and it's Unicron by the way, not Unicorn. But then again, who cares but me?)
I know, that is the typo my other post was referring to. But like I said, so much funnier. |
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« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2006, 11:19:20 am » |
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True. I should probably photoshop Uni eating a planet or something. But then ofcourse, I'm too lazy.
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<j_orlove> I am semi-religious
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<j_orlove> the half that tells me how to live my life
<j_orlove> but not the half that tells me how others should live theirs
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