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« on: October 18, 2006, 10:04:33 am » |
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Namli, goblin hunter - 1RR Legendary Creature - Dwarf warrior First strike If an opponent controls a goblin, Namli gains provoke. Whenever a goblin comes into play, Namli deals 1 damage to it. 3/2 In most games Dwarfs hate goblins, but in magic this has never really been part of the dwarf-flavor on the cards, so i thought i'd make a goblin hunter  Against goblins he is a house, against everything else he is decent. Basicly a walking engineered plague: Goblins. Current wording: Namli, goblin hunter - 1RR Legendary Creature - Dwarf Soldier First strike If an opponent controls a goblin, Namli gains provoke. Whenever a goblin comes into play, Namli deals 1 damage to it. 3/2/Zeus
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2006, 02:15:11 pm » |
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a very nice card. I like the goblin/provoke ability. Those goblins are not going to like this 
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2006, 12:27:02 pm » |
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Dwarves aren't warriors, they're Soldiers. Also, I think this is going too much. I'd get rid of the CIP versus Goblins, since this suddenly becomes 400x better than Aether Flash, and 1RR 3/2 First Strikers. Provoke is also +1 or +2. I think you can get away with this (the name is probably too long): Namli Thorwait, Anti-Goblin Specialist -  Legendary Creature - Dwarf Soldier Whenever Namli Thorwait, Anti-Goblin Specialist blocks or becomes blocked by a Goblin, it gains first strike until end of turn. Whenever Namli Thorwait, Anti-Goblin Specialist attacks, if defending player controls a goblin, Namli gains Provoke until end of turn. 3/1
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2006, 12:38:12 pm » |
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Gotcha on the soldier thing, you're right.
I honestly don't think the card i submitted is too good, if anything, goblins are too good.
Making it 3/1 means that there's like a million goblin effects that just plain kills it. (Mogg fanatic, gempalm incinerator, goblin medics etc. etc.)
Also, its infinetly easier to get rid off then both æther flash and engineered plague - for goblin decks (since burn takes care of him)
/Zeus
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2006, 05:50:01 pm » |
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Yes but he's a 3 mana 3/2 First Strike in red with no drawbacks and TWO extra abilities, at least one of which adds mana to the manacost.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2006, 09:36:23 am » |
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He actually does have a drawback, he's legendary.
Not sure how he can be changed so everyone is satisfied.
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2006, 11:52:22 am » |
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He actually does have a drawback, he's legendary. That's a very minimal drawback, and not worth more than maybe a point of toughness on an aggressive creature. What do you think of my suggestion? I could see making him a 3/2 on that circumstance, but keeping First Strike conditional.
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2006, 12:44:35 pm » |
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Something like:
Namli, goblin hunter - 1RR Legendary Creature - Dwarf Soldier If an opponent controls a goblin, Namli has First strike If an opponent controls a goblin, Namli has Provoke. Whenever a goblin comes into play, Namli deals 1 damage to it. 3/2
That'd be okay with me...i'd still like to keep the ping ability.
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2006, 12:58:34 pm » |
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It's too bad provoke has no synergy with Pro Red or Pro Goblins. Mogg Fanatic, Sharpshooter, Seige Gang and Incinerator (and because of those Matron and Ringleader) take this guy down. The only cards in Legacy goblins that don't own him are lackey, piledriver and warchief. If those are the only goblins in your opponents opening hand, the game could be over before you can cast him.
How giving him pro gobin, or pro red, and giving him the arena ability? Should he able to destroy Goblin Goon somehow?
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2006, 02:12:56 pm » |
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Urh...he has 2 toghness...how does fanatic and sharpshooter own him?
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2006, 03:02:40 pm » |
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Something like:
Namli, goblin hunter - 1RR Legendary Creature - Dwarf Soldier If an opponent controls a goblin, Namli has First strike If an opponent controls a goblin, Namli has Provoke. Whenever a goblin comes into play, Namli deals 1 damage to it. 3/2
That'd be okay with me...i'd still like to keep the ping ability.
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You're giving him 3! abilities, two of which have extreme synergy with each other (dealing with combat) and one of which avoids combat as much as possible (the ping ability). I also feel it's way too high above the curve. There are, for contrast, two other red creatures with 3 power that cost 1RR. One is a 3/2 vanilla, and the other is a 3/4 Mountainwalker with Echo. There's no way this is anywhere near balanced.
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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2006, 09:34:43 am » |
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Okay, please close the thread then.
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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2006, 02:46:13 pm » |
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Why not just give him Pro:Gobbos and keep the ping Goblins ability, and reduce him to a 1/2?
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2006, 09:29:06 am » |
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Okay, please close the thread then.
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No need for further discussion, please close this thread. /Zeus
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