[Deck] U/W Fish control based

[Beast]

Hello,

I am a player for 6 years, but have had a break of 1,5 year from Vintage. I don't now anything about the meta these days. After a little playtesting on MWS i came up with this fish list;

Creatures(16):

4#Meddling Mage
2#Spiketail Hatchling
3#Ninja of the Deep Hours
4#Jotun Grunt
3#Isamaru, Hound of Konda

Spells(23):
2#Disenchant
3#Swords to Plowshares
4#Mana Leak
2#Counterspell
4#Brainstorm
4#Force of Will
4#Standstill

Land(21):
4#Mishra's Factory
4#Wasteland
1#Strip Mine
4#Flooded Strand
4#Tundra
3#Island
1#Plains

Sideboard(15):
4#Energy Flux
4#Chill
1#Swords to Plowshares
4#Arcane Laboratory
2#Disenchant

I don't know if my sideboard is ok like this or that you guys think i should change something. PLease give me some tips about the maindeck and sideboard.

[zulander]

If you like the standstill route I'd say maybe think of using Aether Vial. It get's around "playing" the cards by putting them into play, while your oponent is unable to play a card without you drawing cards.

[Dnine]

I'm pretty sure this will be closed, but in case I"m wrong I'll go ahead and state the obvious.  No on color moxes??? no black lotus or lotus pedal?? 

strip effects with no nul rod or stiffle???

energy flux and arcane lab(3cc) with only 21 mana sources???

perhaps you should take a moment and look through the tournament reports or any of the other 20 or so UW fish deck threads and start with one of those.  Then if you want to add cards like hatchling, disenchant, or counterspell post it and give reasons why.  There are several cards in your post that hardly see play anymore so you need to be more discriptive as to why you think they should be brought back.  You should edit your first post quickly with more detail before this gets locked do to lack of content.

[sundering jerk]

O goodness where to begin....?

Spiketail Hatchling: just isn't good enough to be in this format. I'd rather run cloud of Fairies so I can lay it down a landstill or something if I want a 1/1 flyer. And when ninja is riding on it's back I get happy.
Isamaru, Hound of Konda: ehh he just doesn't do enough and is a legend try Kataki if you're gunna use a legend. and if you're running Energy Flux in the sideboard it'll have great sinergy and there's now way to lose against certain decks.Swords to Plowshares why wouldn't you use 4?! it's the best removal in the game

[AmbivalentDuck]

Are you designing the deck to be unpowered?

[Beast]

Yes im deigning it to be unpowered. Is there anyone who thinks birdsh*t is a better deck than uw fish?

[AmbivalentDuck]

Fish, by concept, is a metagame deck.  If you're playing in a mostly non-proxy meta, it's actually not a very good choice.  There are currently good Fish primers in both the Vintage Forum and the Open Forum if you're interested.

If your meta is mostly unpowered, you could/should look at Legacy decks (type 1.5) or Oath of Druids based decks as both are better suited for creature-heavy metas.

[Everrid1234]

Here my also more control-based Fish, maybe this inspires you:

4 Tundra
4 Flooded Strand
1 Windswept Heath
1 Polluted Delta
2 Island
2 Plains
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine

1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Pearl

1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
4 Brainstorm

2 Ninja of the Deep Hours

4 Meddling Mage
3 Icatian Javelineers
3 Stormscape Apprentice
2 Jotun Grunt
3 Kataki

4 Force of Will
3 Daze
3 Stifle

3 Null Rod

3 Swords to Plowshares


SB:

1 Swords
1 Kataki
3 Jitte
4 Disenchant
1 Null Rod
1 Jotun Grunt
2 Old Man of the Sea
2 Children of Korils

[wethepeople]

Concerning Everrid's list, I have a few suggestions I would like to make. Jotun Grunt should definitely be more than a 2'of. Dont even plan on drawing it or even effecting your game at all with just two maindeck. I suggest running three at least, four may be overkill, but two seems far too little.

With six one-drops MD, and two more in the board, I think Ninja should also be more than a 2'of. It is UW Fish's only real draw engine besides Brainstorm/Ancestral, and in my opinion that is what I think is UW's biggest problem, so you should definitely run 3-4. I ran four in a UWb list and they were amazing, not once were they a burden to me because at least I was able to pitch them to Force of Will.

Your sideboard seems like mostly Fish hate to me (Jitte, Swords, Grunt, Old Man), which seems kind of stupid because Fish is designed to take out "better" decks, not so much itself. I am not saying "dont run any Aggro-hate", I am more so encouraging you to use less slots on one specific archetype. Jitte can stay, Swords should be maindecked, same with Grunt, but Old man doesnt seem at all necessary.

With so many artifacts and enchantments in your board, I have found that SBing Enlightened Tutor to work as an additional... everything. I also like to run 2 Seal of Cleansings, and 1 Disenchant (so you can both Mystical and Enlightened Tutor for them.)

If you run Enlightened it is the equivalent to running four Jittes, four Seal of Cleansings (when you only need to run two, along with a single Disenchant), five Null Rods, and so forth. Sacred Ground seems like a real good card in addition to Enlightened Tutor because it makes the Stax matchup amazingly easy, Energy Flux is similar.

But that is all I've got to say about your deck, even if that was in fact a lot. I will return with feedback on the topic's starter (Beast) after I review the deck a little more.