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[Guevara59]

I need some help w/ my sideboard for my 5cc control deck.  (the deck is posted at the following thread: http://www.themanadrain.com/index.php?topic=32023.0 ) My deck currently runs 3 cunning wishes and my metagame is full of annoyingly fast creature shitting decks. 

Board//
1x MisDi
1x BeB
1x Stifle
1x Mana Leak
1x Echoing Truth
1x Mystical Tutor
1x StP
1x Abeyance
1x Argivian Find
1x Hide//Seek
1x Fire//Ice
1x Shattering Pulse
1x Krosan Reclamation
1x Skeletal Scrying
1x Extirpate

Misdirection  This card is incredibly useful for countering, misdirecting a mind twist etc., and killing annoying goblins w/ their own spells.  This is a keeper

Blue Elemental Blast  I don know if i should also run a ReB but BeB is extremely useful for those obnoxious Welders and the occasional goblin.

Stifle  Extremely useful for various occasions.  But.. i don't know if i should run Trickbind instead.  The one mana cost is extremely appealing.

Mana Leak  You never know when you need an extra counter spell!

Echoing Truth  Obviously a keeper!

Mystical Tutor I dunno if this is necessary,  it can be helpful to search for a tinker when i need it, but, that is rarely important to Wish for a tutor...

Swords to Plowshares  Must i elaborate?!

Abeyance  Very useful in dire times and the draw is nice, but, Orim's chant is also appealing.

Argivian Find  This is helpful when i need my CoW or fastbond back but i dont know if it is necessary when i already have krosan reclamation

Hide//Seek  Perfect for both a DSC remover and an incredible way for life gain in the process

Fire//Ice  Perfect for killing a couple of elves or goblins or welders and Ice is good too.

Shattering Pulse  I think that the mana might be to much for the buyback but when i have enough it's killer against the occasional stax.  Naturalize could work a bit better...

Krosan Reclamation  Perfect for both graveyard removal and cycling my own graveyard.

Skeletal Scrying  Excellent card draw, although, perhaps Stroke of Genius??

Extirpate  Duh!!!!!  Dominates combo!

My deck requires much support from the wishes (reason for 3)  and the board.  But, i dont know if i should drop some card for more meta based cards like chills and such.  Each card is an instant!!  Suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

Toodles,
Guvara59

 

[silvernail]

Perhaps Moments Peace would be good for you ( Flashback fog effect), or constant mists if you run crucible of the worlds.

[rBt]

Hiya,

Some of my thoughts:

Misdirection:
Cool card, can be a live saver.

Blue Elemental Blast:
To be honest, you will be paying 4 mana to counter a most probably cheap spell.

Mana Leak:
Since most of your lands produce U mana, I'd say be brave and run a Counterspell. T1 decks usually spit out loads of mana, so 3 shouldnt be too much of a problem.

Echoing Truth:
Personally I find Rushing River a better choice, due to the fact it will evade most Chalices. And it has a sexy kicker.

Mystical Tutor:
Find a replacement for this, a Krosan Grip maybe.

Swords to Plowshares:
Cool

Abeyance:
I find Orim's Chant better then Abeyance for reasons:
- Abeyance only stops instants/sorceries/activated Abilities, Orim's Chant stops all spells, including Oath/somestack anything else. Abeyance stops activated abilities of course, but Orim's Chant stops the rest.
- Orim's Chant costs only 1 mana, where you dont get a new card, but 4mana is easier to get, then 5. Especially in a 5 color deck.

Argivian Find:
-

Hide/Seek:
-

Fire/Ice:
-

Shattering Pulse:
Expensive... Oxidize is cheap and fast, how high is the chance you will use the buyback?

Krosan Reclamation:
A multi-purpose card, like you said yourself.

Skeletal Scrying:
I'm wondering why you want to remove your GY when you also run a run a Yawgmoth's Will. Skeletal Scrying does remove cards you can target with your Cunning Wish of course. But(!) I find a stroke of Genius a better card, because you keep your 'yard cards where you want m and you still fill up your hand. AND! you dont lose life in the process.

Good luck with your SB,

Hooi
rBt

[wethepeople]

This may seem kind of stupid, but, a large life-gain spell actually seems like a fair contendor. It allows you to get out of lethal Tendrils kills, along with buy you a turn elsewhere.

Darkblast- Handles almost any creature in the format, whenever needed.

Orim's Chant- Buys you a turn versus anything. Shuts down Combo.

Coffin Purge- Similar to Extirpate.

Ray of Revelation- Requires a difficult Casting Cost, yet provides a sort-of uncounterable Enchantment removal spell. Disenchant, also.

Hurkyl's Recall- Handles DSC, builds Storm (if necessary), great in the Stax matchup. Rack and Ruin works for similar reasons, though, in the end, it would take 6 mana to take out 2 artifacts. =/

This is just about all I can think about right now. If anything else comes up, I will notify you.

[Guevara59]

thanks for the suggestions. The following are some substitutions i chose...

-1 BeB, +1 darkblast
-1 Scrying +1 Stroke
-1 Echoing truth +1 River
-1 Shatturing Pulse +1 oxidize
-1 abeyance +1 orim's chant/constant mists (i like the fact of a recurring "no combat")

I really like darkblast and im debating to take out a StP and main deck it instead...

Thaks again and im looking forward to more suggestions

Toodles,
Guevara59

[wethepeople]

You should definitely use Echoing Truth over Rushing River. RR would require 6 to handle 1-2 permanents. Which isn't necessarily what makes it worse, but primarily because E-Truth can handle Empty the Warrens tokens.

Stroke requires too much mana to even be good. 7 mana to even draw one card. Skeletal Scrying still seems better.

Rather than using Oxidize, I highly recomend using Hurkyl's Recall. It will win you so many games versus Stax. As well as take care of all those Tinker-targets.

Constant Mist and Orim's Chant should both take up their own seperate slots, seeing as both of which are very strong cards, in their own situations. Chant handles Combo, or, at it's least, give you a Time Walk. Constant Mist handles Aggro for as long as you need to hold them off.

Rather than taking up your whole sideboard with Wish-targets, you should still dedicate 2-3 slots to your Stax matchup. This deck being a 5c build, I feel that I can make the assumption that your Stax matchup is poor. So, sideboard a few Energy Fluxes, or you can just run more Hurkyl's Recalls.

[Guevara59]

The choices sound good but i cant really tell you how they work out just yet but ill let you know after i play test!!

Toodles,
Guevara59

[verduran]

one of my favorite wish targets is mogg salvage. you might want to give that a try aswell.

[wethepeople]

one of my favorite wish targets is mogg salvage. you might want to give that a try aswell.

Why? The only time that would come in handy is versus like, Control Slaver. It wouldn't work how you are presuming versus Stax/Workshop, for they never have Islands in play.

[That0neguy]

Do you really need to devote your entire SB to a wish board?  Wouldn't it be better to leave some slots open to SB better things in problem matchups?

Here is what I would do:
1 STP - creture removal
1 Extripate - random bomb in ceratin situations/GY removal
1 Fact or Fiction - card drawing for when you have no other needs
1 Misdiretion - counterspell/ancestral #2
1 Rack and Ruin - Artifat removal
1 Echoing Truth - EtW
1 Wipe Away - Collosus
1 Krosan Grip - random enchantment/artifact hate
7 Meta cards sucha s REB or aditional rack and ruins for the stax matchup

This configureation gives you answers to the most common problems you will see, while leaving you with real sidboard slots

[Guevara59]

Thats what i was thinking before.  I knew i had way to much wish targets but i didn't know what to let go.  Thanks for the ideas.  I really like wipe away b/c there is nothing maindecked to stop a DSC on the rampage.

Toodles
Guevara59

[wethepeople]

You mainly need:

Etruth
StP
Misd
Orim's Chant
Constant Mists
Hurkyl's Recall

The rest should be for your worst matchups. I am assuming Stax is one of them, so use Energy Fluxes, or additional Hurkyl's Recalls in the board.

[Hi-Val]

For lifegain, Beacon of Immortality is cute.

For weenie hordes, nothing beats Firestorm.

Have you thought about Urza's Rage or Plagiarize?

Captain's Maneuver is also a neat trick against creature hordes.

[wethepeople]

The problem I am seeing with some of those cards is that their casting costs are really high. Along with {U}2 required for Cunning Wish, it seems like it would cost far too much mana, overall, to cast the spell that you want.

[That0neguy]

I must say that constant mists is pretty techy while playing green and crucible against creatures.

[Guevara59]

Beacon of immortality is fun but like what wethepeople said, it cost way to much mana.

I don't need the firestorm b/c i have an EQ maindecked.  Also, Constant mists kicks major ass!!!

[verduran]

one of my favorite wish targets is mogg salvage. you might want to give that a try aswell.

Why? The only time that would come in handy is versus like, Control Slaver. It wouldn't work how you are presuming versus Stax/Workshop, for they never have Islands in play.

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