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« on: August 08, 2007, 01:02:12 pm »

I used to love playing UBW Bomberman decks, but I got really annoyed with playing the control role all the time; I wanted to get the win but play the aggro role instead.

I decided cutting blue would allow me to become faster and play the aggro role much more effectively.

Here's my current list:

Mana Base
7 SoLoMoxen
4 Scrubland
2 Swamp
1 Plains
3 Polluted Delta
2 Flooded Strand
1 Strip Mine
3 Wasteland

Creatures
3 Auriok Salvagers
3 Dark Confidant

Disruption
4 Duress
3 Cabal Therapy
3 Extirpate

Draw/Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Bargain
1 Necropotence
3 Night's Whisper
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Imperial Seal
1 Entomb

Board Control
2 Swords to Plowshares
1 Diabolic Edict

Utility
4 Necrogen Spellbomb

Acceleration
4 Dark Ritual

Win Condition
1 Tendrils of Agony

Sideboard
4 Leyline of the Void
2 Tormod's Crypt
4 Orim's Chant
3 Pithing Needle
2 Seal of Cleansing

I think the deck is really quite self explanatory. You use early disruption (Duress, Cabal Therapy, Extirpate, Necrogen Spellbomb) to destroy your opponent's hand, while using your draw and tutor cards to find the necessary cards.

A turn 4 or 5 win is the most common, although I've had quite a few turn 2 or 3 wins, and even the occasional turn 1 win!

My biggest weakness seems to be against Fish, as they have enough disruption to mess up my game plan and can put pressure on me quite quickly, maybe I should add Massacre to my sideboard?

I'm currently considering adding Balance because it is just so amazing, although it may be a problem as I usually have a lot of cards in hand. Originally, the list had Yawgmoth's Will, but it became a problem as it often didn't help me much and prevented me from winning that turn.

So, what do you guys think? Comments and criticism would be very much appreciated!

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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2007, 02:48:45 pm »

You say you want to play the aggro role yet have 6 critters, and a combo esque setup. The true versalitility of the uwb build comes from the fact it plays control, can aggro and yet still has a combo out. I would honestly suggest Sui/w build if your looking for the aggro disrupt deck esp in light of sui's recent sucess.
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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2007, 04:11:10 pm »

The biggest loss from dropping Blue is not Force of Will or other control elements, it's Trinket Mage.  Although not necessary for the combo, Trinket Mage is very very very useful in Bomberman, and can search for answers in non-combo situations.  Considering a BW build, you should definitely have Aven Mindcensor in the deck.  Every deck running white should run it.  Same with Balance.  If you are serious about having an aggro-style build, then Jotun Grunt is another obvious inclusion.  Finally, since you are not running Force of Will, you could use some turn 0 protection, so consider moving Leyline to the maindeck.
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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2007, 07:11:13 pm »

The thing that made Bomberman good was its ability to switch gears between aggro, control and combo mode depending on the board position. It ran Trinket mages to fetch combo pieces or answers as well as Merchant Scrolls in some builds for the same reason. By not including these cards, you're essentially confining yourself to bad aggro-proactive control type of deck, since you're not running enough bombs to make the tendrils finish worthwhile.
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2007, 07:58:28 pm »

Loosing blue means you loose Trinket Mage. You are sacrificing explosiveness to consistency. Being able to fetch Crypt/Needle/Spellbomb to fixing mana problems with Moxes, and the much debated Top is the backbone in which bomberman is able to last to make T8s. Dark Confidant cannot replace nor even match Trinket Mage in bomberman. Exactly how do you expect to find Lotus in any consistent manner now?
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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2007, 11:06:04 am »

Exactly how do you expect to find Lotus in any consistent manner now?
Through four tutors and a lot of card drawers. Wink

I can't believe Aven Mindcensor and Balance skipped my mind! What do you think would be good cards to cut for them?

I had considered moving Leyline to the Maindeck instead, but I can't find the room for it.

Thanks for the feedback so far!

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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2007, 08:10:54 pm »

I used to love playing UBW Bomberman decks, but I got really annoyed with playing the control role all the time; I wanted to get the win but play the aggro role instead.

I decided cutting blue would allow me to become faster and play the aggro role much more effectively.

That, that there is your problem. You have butchered a control deck merely to trash to suit your aggro playstyle. This may seem like a good idea to you, but it gets to a point where you just need to accept that a deck is not for you. I could come up with several legitimate reasons conflicting with your proposal, but in the end it all comes down to suggesting none-other than playing an entirely different deck.
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