Oath of Druids

[aosquirrels]

After Oath of Druids triggered ability is on the stack, but before it resolves, will it still resolve if it is removed/destroyed/bounced/etc. from play.  The case in point is that my opponent wanted to sacrifice his Oath to my Smokestack and still have it resolve.  I was losing the game anyway but I just want this clarified for future reference.

[Clariax]

Once the ability is on the stack it exists independently of the source of the ability.  Removing Oath of Druids from play will not remove the ability from the stack (nor stop it from resolving).

[vartemis]

I find this answer interesting as oath checks twice to see if its conditions are met; once when it triggers, and once when it resolves.

The check for the number of creatures in play is made at the beginning of upkeep and this ability does not trigger if the condition is not met. The condition is also checked on resolution and the ability does nothing if it is not still true.

How can the oath check upon resolution if it is no longer in play?  Or perhaps because the enchantment is no longer in play, only the first trigger remains on the stack, and the second trigger never occurs to change the outcome of the trigger.

Did I just answer my own question?

j

[ELD]

How can the oath check upon resolution if it is no longer in play?  Or perhaps because the enchantment is no longer in play, only the first trigger remains on the stack, and the second trigger never occurs to change the outcome of the trigger.

It can check on resolution because, as it was pointed out:

Once the ability is on the stack it exists independently of the source of the ability.

There is no "second trigger," unless I'm misunderstanding your question.  There is only one triggered ability with Oath of Druids, it simply checks to see if the condition is true to trigger, and then the condition must still be true when it resolves or it is countered on resolution.  This is very similar to the way the card Terror works.  In order to place Terror on the stack, you have to have a legal non-black target.  When Terror resolves, it checks to see if the creature is non-black, and if it is not Terror is countered. 

[aosquirrels]

Thanks everyone for your replies.  It all makes sense now.  I just had never encountered that scenario before and I had in my mind the question vartemis mentioned "How can the oath check upon resolution if it is no longer in play?".  So I just needed it clarified.  A better example than Terror would be Goblin Welder.  I activate welder and it gets destroyed before the ability resolves.  The ability still resolves as long as the targets are still legal.

Thanks again guys.

[vartemis]

It can check on resolution because, as it was pointed out:

Once the ability is on the stack it exists independently of the source of the ability.

There is no "second trigger," unless I'm misunderstanding your question.  There is only one triggered ability with Oath of Druids, it simply checks to see if the condition is true to trigger, and then the condition must still be true when it resolves or it is countered on resolution.  This is very similar to the way the card Terror works.  In order to place Terror on the stack, you have to have a legal non-black target.  When Terror resolves, it checks to see if the creature is non-black, and if it is not Terror is countered. 

Oh, so there is only one trigger, but that one trigger checks twice.  Gotcha.

j