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« on: July 01, 2008, 03:50:15 pm »

Im quite new to playing combo decks and recently started playing Legacy Belcher. I just want to know for rules sake what needs to be said in instances where I would cast burning wish with a lions eye diamond in play and would want to sacrifice the diamond to get the mana prior to wish resolving. If it's just as simple as casting wish and saying "in response, sac diamond" then I just want to know for sure...

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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2008, 04:13:02 pm »

If it's just as simple as casting wish and saying "in response, sac diamond" then I just want to know for sure...

That would work.  I usually announce my spell and then quickly say "without passing priority, I will activate LED in response".  If you pause for too long after announcing your tutor, you may get busted by a judge for trying to deceptively gain information about your opponent's hand.
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2008, 04:28:20 pm »

yeah you might want to get into the habit of announcing the spell and saying that you are not ging to pass priority.  I had a scenario where i played yawg will with LED out and i said yawg will and my opponent immediatly said "OK" and tried to keep me from using LED.  So if you get into the habit of telling an opponent when you plan on passing priority you can save some headaches.
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2008, 04:43:54 pm »

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If you pause for too long after announcing your tutor, you may get busted by a judge for trying to deceptively gain information about your opponent's hand.

IMO if you're not saying it in the same breath, you're not playing it properly.  There should be zero pause.  If you are going to sac the LED, your opponent should not have a chance to even say "OK" to the spell you're responding to.  If you say "Burning Wish sac LED in response" there's no room for error or misinterpretation.  You shouldn't be announcing spells, then contemplating whether or not you want to add further effects.  It's an all in move, and a single move at that.  If you break "Burning Wish" and "in response sacrifice Lion's Eye Diamond" with a pause, you're inviting all sorts of problems and potentially cheating. 
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2008, 08:34:11 pm »

When i'm doing a bunch of things where I want to keep priority like playing around split second spells and the like I tend to say i'm not passing priority before i do ANYTHING. Like i'll just say "I'll tell you when i'm ready to pass priority" or something before doing anything.
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2008, 09:39:10 pm »

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If you pause for too long after announcing your tutor, you may get busted by a judge for trying to deceptively gain information about your opponent's hand.

IMO if you're not saying it in the same breath, you're not playing it properly.  There should be zero pause.  If you are going to sac the LED, your opponent should not have a chance to even say "OK" to the spell you're responding to.  If you say "Burning Wish sac LED in response" there's no room for error or misinterpretation.  You shouldn't be announcing spells, then contemplating whether or not you want to add further effects.  It's an all in move, and a single move at that.  If you break "Burning Wish" and "in response sacrifice Lion's Eye Diamond" with a pause, you're inviting all sorts of problems and potentially cheating. 
Mostly correct, although i would hesitate to say you're potentially cheating if your intent is not to be duplicitous and gain extra information.  However, I would agree with what ELD says here.  If you give your opponent the impression that you're passing priority (as you usually do), you are probably playing the spell wrong.  In other words you need to make it immediately clear that you are maintaining priority.  I would be very suspicious of a player that announced Burning Wish and tried to get a read before deciding whether to crack LED or not.
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