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Author Topic: Always the Bridesmaid, Never the Bride: 2nd at Vintage Nats  (Read 6727 times)
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« on: August 04, 2008, 01:42:09 am »

Since I did not stay for Sunday, I figure I might as well get a report up now before I forget it all.

My tournament started a couple weeks before.  I had not really planned on playing, but since it was only an hour or two away, I still was gonna make the trip to hang out.  However, I played a really powerful Slaver deck in the ICBM Tourney leading up to Nats, and was extremely impressed with how it functioned.  I checked out the NEOH boards and figured that if Twaun decided to play Dredge, I would use his power and if he played a real deck, I would just try dredge or something.

Fast forward to a couple days prior, and I make plans to go down to IL with Soly and his friend Steve Ferry.  We eventually decide to leave Thursday night and arrive at the hotel around 2am.  Twaun and Brian Demars come down to greet us and we all take a short walk to check out the venue, discussing the format and things of that nature.  Everyone gets to sleep pretty soon thereafter so we are rested for a day of spell slinging.

People trickle out of the room in the morning and eventually Jerry Yang, Mark Trogdon, Soly, Steve, Twaun, Randall, Nam Tran, and I head down to breakfast at the hotel buffet.  At this point, I have decided I’m playing dredge, but I have scrounged up a bunch of power so I’m 2 moxes short of playing Saturday.  The buffet is pretty good, but ends up costing like $10 and coffee and OJ are like $5 each as well.  This is clearly insane, and none of us is particularly excited about that.

We get to the venue, chat around, I get to meet a variety of Canadians and Americans.  I win my first round but then do extremely poorly in the next 2 and drop in disgust, confident that I am never playing Dredge again.  I spend the rest of the tournament just walking around and checking out what people are playing, chatting with everyone there.  Andy Probasco’s deck in particular is a lot of fun to watch, as I love Life from the Loam and his turns are full of lands entering and leaving his hand.  Jim Gaffney (Godot) ends up winning the 2 byes playing Lou’s Ichorid deck, which he has to give back and cannot play it Saturday.  We order some Giordano’s pizza, and after the event I am sitting and talking with Smennen and the usual Ohio crowd.  At this point, none other than Erik Lauer and Alan Comer come over and sit down, and ask Steve what he thinks about the recent changes, the format, and the job they are doing.  The following 2 hours are extremely interesting to me as there are discussions about Gro, Combo, Memory Jar, Necropotence, Gifts, Scroll, Gush, old Restrictions, possible unrestrictions, and everything in between.  At one point, after arguing about Will versus Lotus as the most powerful card in the format, we ask everyone at the table if they could only use one, would it be Lotus or Will.  Everyone at the table except Brian Demars picked Will.  Eventually Lauer and Comer have to go as the conversation had gotten quite long, and we start to head back to the room and build our decks and prepare for the main event.

Staying in our room for the weekend are the 8 mentioned at breakfast plus Smennen and Brian Demars.  Demars was playing either 1 or 2 Strategic Plannings in his list day 1, at Steve’s suggestion, and he and I begin discussing a way to fit in 2 more.  At this point, I have found all the cards I need except a Pearl, and have decided to just play without it.  Anyway, Demars and I eventually come up with a list we are happy with and work on the sideboard.  We start with his 3 Crypt, 3 Sphere, 1 3Ball, 3 Wasteland, 1 Thran Foundry and do some work on the last few.  He ends up with a Shattering Spree versus my second Rack and Ruin (for painter), and we both play a singleton Pyroclasm.  The last card we decide on is Sower of Temptation, for things like random fish, Man-Plan TPS, and Tinker-DSC decks.  We never really decide on a good 15th card, and Brian runs a second Sower while I play an Engineered Explosives.  Brian had talked to Rich Shay earlier about the deck and Rich said he would think about it and decide if he wanted to play Slaver or TPS in the morning.  Steve has a playset of Plannings, which Rich has first dibs on, so I secretly hope Rich will play Combo =p

In the morning, we stop down for breakfast again and Rich leaves Steve a message signaling his intent to play TPS.  With that, my deck is filled out and I am all ready to go.  After picking up the rest of the power I needed from Ben Carp, I register and get ready for a long, difficult day of magic.  The skill level of this field was really high, with the posted top 8 plus DicemanX, Shockwave, Rich, Andy, Seroogy, Smennen, Jim Gaffney, Fuckin’ Lou, Dan Carp, Mat Endress, Brian Fisher, and many more really strong vintage players in the field.  The pairings are called, and the most prestigious tourney of the year gets underway.

Round 1: vs. Derek with TPS

Derek is a guy who has played at the ICBM Opens in Milwaukee, and in fact purchased the Lotus I won a few months ago.   We exchange pleasantries and get under way.  Game 1 is pretty sloppy, and at one point, I declare my end of turn, Derek fetches, so I say “I’m still done, do you have any more effects?”  Derek plays a dark ritual, and I try to think what he could be doing.  I let it resolve, and he looks very upset and just burns for 3.  It turns out he had a Grim Tutor and just spaced out, as he would have won on his turn if he had not played the ritual there.  However, that time lets me get some control and I eventually kill him by attacking with a Welder and later a Gorilla Shaman (as he had done 11 to himself).  In game 2, Derek brings in Negators.  He gets 2 of them in play early, but I respond by tinkering out Triskelavus.  They stare each other down for a turn or two, and then Derek decides to attack.  His board consists of 2 Negators, 3 mana sources, and a tormod’s crypt.  I block one negator with my 3/3 Trike and let the other through (leaving my other token out of combat).  We stack damage, and I remove both my tokens.  I let damage resolve, and then with the Negator trigger on the stack, I ping the one who has taken 3 damage.  I let the ping resolve, and then respond again to the new trigger by pinging it again.  Derek’s negator dies to state based effects, and he is forced to sacrifice all 5 of his other permanents.  From there, I play a sphere or two and get crucible strip waiting and Derek scoops them up.

Record: 1-0
Times I used or even put Mindslaver into play: 0

Round 2: vs. Greg with TPS

Game 1, I keep a kinda sketchy hand, which is really solid against everything but combo.  Unfortunately, Greg kills me on his second or third turn and I play no disruption of any kind.  For game 2, I start with land, sapphire, mana crypt, Tinker.  It resolves and trinisphere appears.  I get a wasteland or two and eventually play a huge robot.  In game 3, I again am able to use Wastes and spheres to mana screw him and eventually tinker up the titan.  However, he floats mana and rebuilds me, killing all my lands as well.  My hand still has the Crucible though (since I had tinkered during a Will turn and had drawn a few cards there as well), and I am able to rebuild and get out 2 spheres and the 3ball.  Eventually I generate about a thousand mana and cast Titan followed by Trike with 3 mana drains waiting in the wings.

Record: 2-0
Times I used or even put Slaver into play: 0

Round 3: Edman from RIW with Slaver

Edman is also playing slaver, although it is not Strategic Slaver.  Game 1, I generate a bunch of mana and get Strip lock active on turn 3, and he scoops when I cast demonic tutor.  In game 2, we trade a few draw spells and then do nothing for 5 turns.  I draw a DT and a Force, but have no blue card to use with it.  Unfortunately, Edman drew a drain for his DT, so he gets mindslaver and wrecks me and I lose.  In game 3, neither of us is doing a lot but I have more mana.  I let his welder resolve, then play Sower to steal it and play my own.  I attack and a turn or two later add a gorilla shaman, and they just beat him down over a couple turns.

Record: 3-0
Times I used or even put Mindslaver into play: 0

Round 4: Owen with Painter

This round is covered pretty well on WOTC’s site.  Game 1, I literally drew almost all mana sources and never had a chance after mulling to like 5.  In game 2, I definitely could have won, but on the last turn where I played Shaman, I could have held up Rack and Ruin instead.  However, that plan left me dead to any counter, while Shaman only made me lose if he had Painter, Red Source, REB as his 2 cards + 1 topdeck.  Sadly, he had it and I died.

Record: 3-1
Times I used or even put Mindslaver into play: 0

Round 5: Dave Caplan (Goobafish) with UR Landstill

Game 1 is a slaughter.  My hand is kinda slow, and Dave opens on Library on turn 1.  I try desperately to do anything, but he plays a null rod to shut down 3 mana artifacts and then stifles two of my fetches on the same turn.  He also resolves his ancestral, my ancestral, and 2 standstills all in his favor.  I scoop when he shows me a hand of like 10 counterspells against my 1 island manabase.  In game 2, I am able to get off the ground faster than he can and kill him before he can get any standstills going or draw any real cards.  In game 3, he plays fetch go.  I open on volc and try Goblin Welder.  He says “I guess we’ll try this” and fetches and tries Ancestral.  Sadly for him, I have a MisD, and he has no pitch counter so I draw 3.  A couple turns later, I play my own ancestral and manage to resolve Crucible (baiting with a welder first to eat his drain) and waste all his non-islands.  Pretty soon, I cast echoing truth on his Null Rod followed by Yawg Will and it’s all over.

Record: 4-1
Times I used or even put Mindslaver into play: 0

Round 6: Edward with Mono Red Shop Aggro

Game 1, I keep a pretty bad hand with a land and ancestral, and Edward kills me on about his 4th or 5th turn without me playing a spell.  In game 2 though, I start with Wasteland, Sol Ring.  Edward plays a juggernaut, and I cast Tinker but both my robots are in hand, so I just get crucible.  I also manage a welder.  A turn or two later, when juggernaut attacks, I cast thirst discarding Trike and Titan.  I tap my welder and Edward just picks them up.  In game 3, we both start kinda slow, and I counter 2 Solemn Simulacrums (Edward has no red mana, and I have 2 drains in hand I am trying to get online).  Eventually, Edward gets out 4 spheres and chalice at zero and I play a welder and and have 4 mana available.  On his end step, I weld my mana crypt into play for a mox, and untap to play Engineered Explosives for 1, paying 2UUB.  Next turn, I waste his shop, blow up his spheres, and then on his end step weld out his sol ring (which is his only other non-chalice permanent) for tormod’s crypt.  He has only chalice 0 in play, and I just attack with a 1/1 for a while until I finally find a big dude like 12 turns later.  Meanwhile, Edward never draws a mountain.

Record: 5-1
Times I used or even put Mindslaver into play: 0

At this point, I unfortunately know that we must play the last round.  Due to the number of 5-1 players, none of us can draw and so it’s win-and-in at 4 different tables.

Round 7: Phil (MoxLotus) with UBG Fish

I was later told that this was Becker’s new deck.  Anyway, in game 1, I mulligan down to 3 on the play before finding more than one land (with no mana in my 5 and 4 card hands).  I play land welder and he forces, leaving me with emerald in hand.  Phil then strips my land.  Awesome.  I draw ancestral and mystical before finding a land, at which point Phil has 3 lands, a mox, a Tarmogoyf, and a Dark Confidant in play.  I resolve ancestral and draw a bunch of moxes.  I still have a chance to win, but the next turn Phil plays a cursecatcher, stifles my fetch, and puts lethal on the board.  Instead of being able to Mystical for and resolve Tinker, I die.  I think Phil would like me to point out that Cursecather was quite terrific right there, keeping him from losing to a mull to 3.  However, sadly for Phil,  I get some sweet revenge.  In game 2, I play land-Mana Crypt 3ball.  Phil plays a dual, and I waste it.  Phil plays a fetch, so I draw Tinker off the top and get Triskelavus.  When Phil draws his next card and has no land, he scoops.  In game 3, Phil duresses me to start, seeing Strip Mine, Sapphire, Jet, Demonic Tutor, 3ball, 2 Fetch.  He takes the 3ball and I draw, play my moxes, cast DT (which he counters), and strip his land.  Phil plays a land and passes, and so I play land, Crucible.  Phil does not have a dude the next turn and never gets above one land again, while I draw a ton of cards and eventually tap my Academy for 8 mana to play Sundering Titan.  Next turn, I tap it for 9 and play Triskelavus and beat down my opponent who controls no permanents.

Record: 6-1
Times I used or even put Mindslaver into play: 0

With that, I make it into the top 8.  I look around, and Soly, Myself, Paul, and Jason (the Oath player) had all won to join Owen, Nighbor, Tommy, and Brian in the top 8.

Quarters: Chris Nighbor with Dredge

My hands in this match were insane.  In game 1, I lead with welder and tinker in Trike turn 2.  I make a mistake a turn later but manage to squeak it out.  I am able to remove all his bridges and he uses all his black cards bringing back Ichorids, leaving himself with just 4 cards in his deck.  He can only attack for one less than my life total the next turn, and I have Demonic and Thirst in hand so all I need to do is dig up a black source and I win.  I draw, play thirst, and draw Will and Lotus, so I just DT, Recall him, Will, and Recall him again.  In game 2, Chris serum powders 3 times, removing his Angel, 2 Narcos, 3 Therapies, and a bridge.  He keeps 3 cards and plays a bazaar.  I open my hand and keep 3 Tormod’s Crypts, Brainstorm, Land, Mana Vault, and Triskelavus.  My brainstorm finds me Sapphire, Lotus, and Sphere, so I just put back the 3rd Crypt and the Trike on top.  I play out Mox, Vault, Lotus, Crypt, Crypt, and then crypt him since there is a troll in his yard.  He bazaars on his upkeep and discards another dredger so I crypt him again before his draw step.  I take my turn, cast Trike, cast Sphere, and pass.  From there, he misses dredgers for like 2 turns and I play a 3rd crypt.  My two hands this match were unbelievable and I could not have asked for more.

Semis: Tommy Kowolith with TPS

Ah, finally, a match I was looking forward to.  Tommy is like 5-1 all-time against me, including in the Finals at Rochester, in the top 4 in Milwaukee last month, and day 2 in Chicago at 4-0 for the chance to draw in.  However, I believe my deck is really strong against combo, particularly post board, and was looking forward to playing against TPS.  The coverage at WOTC’s site is pretty good.  I managed to get a pretty early tinker in game 1 and stole his ancestral and was able to hold on to kill him.  Game 2 I countered a couple early plays and then he resolved twister, played ancestral (which I let go), played Tinker (which I thirsted, then Forced) and passed.  My hand was crazy, so I played a bunch of mana, cast demonic tutor for time walk (with Force in hand), tinkered up Titan, and passed.  Tommy tried some bomb which I forced pitching the walk (my only blue card), and I attacked him.  He missed that turn, and I put him to 1.  He said “I have a lot of outs”, which I didn’t doubt, but all he drew was a dark ritual and I killed him.  That was a very satisfying win, and it left just Paul and I to battle for the title and the painting. 

Finals: Paul "Mr. Type 4" Mastriano with TPS

I ask Paul if he wants to split or play and he says “Let’s play” so we get underway.  Game 1 is pretty awful, as after that opener, I did not draw a nonland for the whole game.  Literally the only spells I cast were Sol Ring, Crypt, and Titan.  In game 2, it was close, and when Paul sent me that gifts, it really got my hopes up that I could still win.  Sadly I missed on a couple draws, and when I demonic-ed, I went for ancestral since I couldn’t cast Tinker or Sower that turn (he was tapped out and had 3 cards off ancestral), hoping to hit some action and a counter.  Instead, I missed on even finding a blue card, and so when my Strategic Planning hit next turn, it was Force, Welder, Land, but the Force was uncastable so I took the welder and hoped to get a way to get him going the next turn.  Instead, Paul hurkyl’ed me, mystical-ed for Will and untapped.  Since I know I would have wanted to do it, I made him play it out and it ended with Paul casting demonic, finding tendrils, and windmilling right into the middle of my cards, in epic fashion.  I shook his hand and tried to think about what I could have done differently to win the game, as Paul got his picture taken with his new prize.

Final Record: 8-2
Number of Times I used or even put slaver into play: 0

Afterwards, I sat at the table for a while and Erik Lauer, who had been watching the finals, sat down and we chatted along with many of the other OH guys for a while.  I took apart my deck and gave back the power to the many people who helped me out, and talked to Erik about the deck, the format, and many other things.  At one point, he asked what cards could reasonably be reprinted, I was able to pick out maybe 15-20 cards, mostly from the maindeck, that all seemed pretty reasonable.  Patrick Chapin came over and sat down for a while too and talked about vintage and standard and everything in between, every bit as interesting as the Chapin you see on The Magic Show.  Patrick also said he would play Will (as long as everyone else has to make the same choice).

Mike and Steve wanted to leave that night, so we started to pack up and get set.  I said my goodbyes and as we left the venue, Twaun and Randall… well, they made some slightly questionable choices which we will not get into here.  We hang out in the room and talk about eventually, Soly, Steve, and I leave Chicago around 3-3:30am.  I get home around 6 and immediately fall asleep.

My list can be found at the official wizards site, I actually played -1 Mox Pearl +1 Mana Crypt since I could not find a pearl on the day.  I was extremely happy with the deck, and think it is absolutely one of if not the best deck in the format.  Out of two players, there were two copies in the top 4 (including one in the top 2) and a total record of 14-3-2.  This deck is the real deal, and there’s probably not a card I would have changed from the ideal list (with pearl over lotus petal).  Some props and slops (apologies to anyone I forgot):

Props:
-Paul Mastriano for becoming the 2008 Vintage Champion
-Brian Demars for being a ridiculous deckbuilder and creating a monster of a deck (and letting me play with it too =p )
-Ben Carp for lending me 4 pieces of power
-Nam Tran for lending me 2 pieces and 4 FoW
-Steve Ferry for lending me a piece
-Mark Trogdon for lending me a piece
-Jerry Yang for lending me basically everything else
-Steve Menendian for lending me 4 Strategic Planning and a Thran Foundry
-WOTC for running a pretty solid tournament
-That top 8 for being unreal strong
-All the Ohio dudes for being awesome and helping me play at all, and letting me have a place to sleep
-Everyone who I met this tournament for either the first time or just in general
-Erik Lauer for taking the time to come and talk with people who actually play and enjoy vintage, and hopefully for taking into account our opinions
-Bill Stark and WOTC for actually covering the event and putting up some good descriptions of the top 8 (and giving me a feature match, even though I lost!)
-Rich Shay, for playing Combo so that I could play Strategic Slaver


Slops:
Me, for losing game 2 to Owen due to just being worse at magic than him
Me, for not winning a tournament that I was good enough to win and that my deck was good enough to win
Me, for not keeping up the Champs Winner precedent (Meandeck every other year, somebody from some regional ‘team’ in between)
Me, for being 0-3 in the Finals of big tournaments (losing to TK, Rich, and Paul)
Soly for not beating Tommy in the top 8
The OH crew for having an awful day (I’m looking at you, Jerry!)


Alas, I was close, but not quite there.  This is not the first time, but I’m hoping it will be the last. Next year, I will be on a mission to bring home a painting of my own.  I’ll see everyone at the next big event.


PS Friday night, Brian and I agreed that our goal was to make Strategic Planning a $100 by Monday.  When I got home, I checked SCG and lo and behold, they were listed at just that (and sold out).  Mission Accomplished!
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2008, 02:03:35 am »

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OH WHATEVER!   He opened Sapphire, recall, jet, vault, land.  And vamped for bargain in response to my duress.  MAN MUST.  Then Game 2, he mis-ded my Thoughtseize and AGAIN dropped 4 restricted mana accelerants and cast a grim for Necro AND played it turn 1.
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2008, 02:40:13 am »

Super duper congratulations on your finish. You played like a champion all day.

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The OH crew for having an awful day (I’m looking at you, Jerry!)

Yeah, it was awful. I new I was in bad shape when one of my opponents opened with Forest Fyndhorn Elf.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2008, 03:58:19 am »

Congratulations on your finish. Could you perchance point me in the direction of the Wizards Coverage you mention in the finals? The only vintage match I see covered was your round four match against Owen.
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2008, 03:59:59 am »

Great report!

Number of Strategic Planning in tournament?  8.  Number of Strategic Planning in top 4?  Also, 8.  The deck/card was completely bonkers all tournament long.  

Brainstorm, fifty cents, restricted.
Merchant Scroll, one dollar, restricted.
Ponder, twenty five cents, restricted.

Strategic Planning, unrestricted, $100.  Shocking..., not particularly.  There were people all over Nationals trying to buy and trade for Strategic Planning on Sunday afternoon.  And the going rate for them was $100 all day long.  

It is an awesome feeling to know that we made an unknown card from portal into one of the twenty most expensive cards in the game with one day's work.  Congratulations on your finsih, and no worries;  you are one of the best players in the format and you'll get a painting sooner or later.
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2008, 05:38:34 am »

Congrats on the strong finish. I wish I could have gone but I didn't know I was going to have power to borrow until last weekend so not nearly enough time to find a plane ticket x_x. Also I got a phone call from brassman on saturday midday about strategic planning so I managed to snag two before they sold out everywhere heh heh heh profit Very Happy $$$.
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2008, 06:19:23 am »

Congrats again on the solid play, you earned that top 8, and I was glad I was able to watch the tail end of your finals.
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2008, 10:00:56 am »

Nice meeting you. Congrats on the finish! I really hate seeing Misdirection when I am baiting a force Razz.
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2008, 10:26:50 am »

Congratulations on your finish. Could you perchance point me in the direction of the Wizards Coverage you mention in the finals? The only vintage match I see covered was your round four match against Owen.

Here you go:
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2008, 11:20:22 am »

Super duper congratulations on your finish. You played like a champion all day.

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Yeah, it was awful. I new I was in bad shape when one of my opponents opened with Forest Fyndhorn Elf.

No, that was just the Magic gods rubbing it in. You knew you were in bad shape when you resolved two Togs, an ETW, and a Cunning Wish against me and still got obliterated.
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2008, 11:48:47 am »

About the list:

Why no gifts ungiven? seems weird to me.
It also seems weird not to play with all of the "good" accelerants (5 Mox, 1 loti, 1 sol ring, 1 crypt, 1 vault) - I know you explained why you didn't play it all, but FFY didn't play with mana crypt which just seems wrong!

Also welder as a two off seems weird with so many ways to fit nuttyness into the Yard.

Anyways, Grats on the finish!

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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2008, 11:53:13 am »

Congrats Jimmy.

Awesome performance.

I hope you didn't feel like we were gunning against you in the finals. Have to root for the team first. Wink
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2008, 02:38:33 pm »

Congrats on the finish Jimmy! I was real disappointed when I couldn't manage to scrounge up a set of power for you to use but I was real psyched that you managed to get the cards you needed because I knew you would be a force to be reckoned with. You didn't quite get there but you still did really well. Congrats!
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2008, 02:42:14 pm »

Congrats Jimmy.

Awesome performance.

I hope you didn't feel like we were gunning against you in the finals. Have to root for the team first. Wink

Nah man it's cool.  I was just having fun messing around, as Paul agreed we could play a fun match instead of super serious magic heh.

About the list:

Why no gifts ungiven? seems weird to me.
It also seems weird not to play with all of the "good" accelerants (5 Mox, 1 loti, 1 sol ring, 1 crypt, 1 vault) - I know you explained why you didn't play it all, but FFY didn't play with mana crypt which just seems wrong!

Also welder as a two off seems weird with so many ways to fit nuttyness into the Yard.

Anyways, Grats on the finish!

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As to the accelerant thing, I'm pretty sure Brian played with Mana Crypt and no Lotus Petal and they just mistyped the lists.  That card was insane for me all day even if it does bolt you every turn.  On Welder, he's pretty much the worst card in the deck and playing more than 2 makes them clog your hand up real bad against combo.  Drawing 2 welders against TPS is really asking to lose, and drawing 2 welders against anyone but Stax was also real bad for me pretty much all day long.

Great report!

Number of Strategic Planning in tournament?  8.  Number of Strategic Planning in top 4?  Also, 8.  The deck/card was completely bonkers all tournament long.  

Brainstorm, fifty cents, restricted.
Merchant Scroll, one dollar, restricted.
Ponder, twenty five cents, restricted.

Strategic Planning, unrestricted, $100.  Shocking..., not particularly.  There were people all over Nationals trying to buy and trade for Strategic Planning on Sunday afternoon.  And the going rate for them was $100 all day long.  

It is an awesome feeling to know that we made an unknown card from portal into one of the twenty most expensive cards in the game with one day's work.  Congratulations on your finsih, and no worries;  you are one of the best players in the format and you'll get a painting sooner or later.

Thanks a lot for the kind words Brian.  The worst part of the whole Planning thing is that I don't even own any!  And now they're priced way beyond what I would ever pay for them.  Talking about that deck Friday night was really interesting and I really enjoyed working on it with you, the whole thing was incredible on the day and I really did feel all day like the only two decks good enough to win the tournament were Strategic Slaver and TPS.  Just make sure you get Steve to look through all his random junk before each tournament, I can't help but wonder what else is lurking out there.

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See now, a good player would admit that they probably made a mistake somewhere in the match.  A bad player would just claim they got outdrawn =p  I freely admit that I lost game 2 against Owen by playing badly (mana burning on Drain mana probably lost me the game).  Against Paul, there was probably a spot game 2 where I could have turned it around, but I didn't make the right choice and died.  Let's see some accountability here Soly =p
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2008, 03:21:33 pm »

Just make sure you get Steve to look through all his random junk before each tournament, I can't help but wonder what else is lurking out there.

What made me suggest Strategic Planning was actually Brian's question to me in the car on thursday about whether this card would have a 'profound impact on Vintage':

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When I saw Strategic Planning in my binder, I thought about it in slaver and realized that it was close Brian's card and potentially great in Slaver!

I had no idea that it would be as busted as it turned out to be though.

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Congrats on a great performance.  You are the bride.  Only Paul was the groom :X

I think a big question over the next 6 months will be the battle between Slaver and TPS.

Although you beat up on TPS all weekend, Paul beat the two top Slaver players in the tournament, in the top 4 no less.   

It will be interesting (sort of) to see how these decks evolve to fight each other and how the decks in the metagame evolve around that central dynamic.

I don't think it was a coincidence that the top 4 was two TPS and 2 Meandeck Slaver. 
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« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2008, 08:30:47 pm »

Some day we will have a match that isn't a complete abomination all 3 games. 

Did you board in wastes and crucibles in all of your matches?  What stuff do you remove for them?
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« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2008, 10:17:37 pm »

I'm pretty sure I've used this title before.
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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2008, 11:04:51 pm »

Yes, Carl, but I think winning the World Championship precludes your using it anymore Smile

Congratulations, Jimmy!
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« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2008, 12:23:56 am »

Congrats Jimmy on the finish. I just wish we could have had a good match up, i was a little disappointed after reading the coverage of our match since it was really off.

Game 1 jimmy leads with academy and petal, i play sea and imp seal, jimmy plays a and and tries to tinker realizing he cant and passes, i play a fetch and pass. jimmy plays land and tinkers i recall in response jimmy lays mis-d and kills my land with titan. i then fetch and vamp. i draw my dark ritual and have the play of rit, grim for lotus, play cabal with thresh then another grim for will with tendrils already in hand jimmy has another force and counters my dark ritual.

Game 2 o play jet ritual jimmy plays force i play land and pass. land lotus from jimmy. i draw a blue card for force and play land grim for lotus and pass. jimmy play land shaman and eats my jet. i play lotus into twister with two lands open. twister hand is terrible only having a recall with resolves. i then play land and a mox into tinker which gets forced i pass turn with my hand being 3 seas, lotus, hurkyls and a mox. jimmy tutors for tinker and gets titan. i have one land to Jimmy's 2 land and sol ring. i draw dark rit and decide to play hurkys which will kill both Jimmy's lands and leave with with  sol ring and titan in hand and only a shaman in play with me having the mana sources in hand to recover. jimmy has yet another force. i have a turn to draw out of it with having to lands in play rit and lotus in hand. i draw time walk witch gives me another land drop and anther chance i then draw ritual and my day is over.

I guess ill just ha to try and win next year again, overall the weekend was a blast with the highlight probably being playing in the saga block sealed and taking second on breakers always like drafting the old cards.
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« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2008, 12:38:27 am »

Yeah their coverage was very lacking.  They didn't mention my keepable hands, drawing 3 lands in a row, and how quickly you dropped bargain / necro against me.  Oh well.  it was a blast.
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« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2008, 01:11:59 am »

Some day we will have a match that isn't a complete abomination all 3 games. 

Did you board in wastes and crucibles in all of your matches?  What stuff do you remove for them?

Crucible was main.  Let's see, wastes came in rounds 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.  So I think I decided against bringing them in for my Slaver mirror, but I might be wrong and maybe they came in there too.  That card is good!
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« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2008, 01:38:05 am »

Congrates Man.  Sorry you didn't win.  That deck is just amazing.
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« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2008, 02:24:59 am »

Some day we will have a match that isn't a complete abomination all 3 games. 

Did you board in wastes and crucibles in all of your matches?  What stuff do you remove for them?

Crucible was main.  Let's see, wastes came in rounds 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.  So I think I decided against bringing them in for my Slaver mirror, but I might be wrong and maybe they came in there too.  That card is good!

I'm really curious to what your sbing strategy was. What was coming out for the wastes in all those matches? Maybe you or brian could make a thread about the list?
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« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2008, 09:19:51 am »

Congrats Jimmy.  You should definitely plan to attend the Vintage Championships next year.
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« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2008, 03:41:40 am »

Let's see, wastes came in rounds 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.  So I think I decided against bringing them in for my Slaver mirror, but I might be wrong and maybe they came in there too.  That card is good!
Hmm, why not maindeck them then?
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« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2008, 04:03:30 am »

Congratulations on the superb finish!

I'm also very interested in your 'strategic sideboard plannings'. Sideboarding is one of the most difficult parts of the Magic game and I'm always trying to learn to get better at it. Knowing what to bring in, is never too difficult but what to take out? Thanks in advance!

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« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2008, 12:28:25 am »

Congratulations Jimmy I got the pleasure of watching most of the top 8, and it was some ridiculous competition with awesome games.

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« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2008, 12:47:10 am »

Jimmy is god.
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