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« on: October 11, 2008, 03:18:03 am »

going to start testing this next week
wanted to hear from the drain community for suggestions before i play this

any advice for the mana?
is it enough of the right types?
fetch to duel ratio any good?
inclusion of basics?

and does any one see any weakness against any certain type of decks that i should include hate for in the sideboard


mirrored desires (version 1):

1x demonic tutor
1x mystical tutor
1x merchant scroll
1x vampiric tutor
1x imperial seal
1x planar portal

1x ancestral recall
1x channel
2x tendrils of agony
1x yawgmoth's will
1x timetwister
1x memory jar
1x echoing truth
1x fastbond
1x tinker
1x platinum angel
1x time walk
1x mind's desire
1x brainstorm
4x lich's mirror

4x force of will
4x pact of negation
4x mana drain

1x sol ring
1x black lotus
1x mox sapphire
1x mox emerald
1x mox jet
1x lotus petal
1x mana crypt

1x stripmine
3x city of brass
3x polluted delta
3x underground sea
4x tropical island
2x flooded strand
1x bayou

sb
?x slaughter pact
?x chalice of the void
?x tormod's crypt
?x pithing needle
?x research//development
1x darksteel colossus
1x sundering titan
? other stuff?

thanks for reading and hopefully thanks for the coming responses!
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2008, 12:43:29 pm »

First off congratz on the build  Smile i was hoping someone would post about the mirror.
How's the Planar Portal working out? And the lone Strip Mine? Did they get the axe? Is this testing well? Have a version 2 yet? Or no need?
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2008, 02:37:05 pm »

version 2

3x stroke of genius
1x mystical tutor
1x merchant scroll
1x rushing river
1x ancestral recall
1x channel
1x fastbond
2x intuition
1x timetwister
1x windfall
1x memory jar
1x echoing truth
1x tinker
4x accumulated knowledge
1x high tide
1x wheel of fortune
1x brainstorm
4x lich's mirror
4x force of will
4x pact of negation
4x chrome mox/mox diamond (difficult choice on these...chrome mox is good pre-mirror and mox diamond is good post-mirror)
1x sol ring
1x black lotus
1x mox sapphire
1x mox emerald
1x lotus petal
1x mana vault

2x city of brass
3x polluted delta
2x gemstone mine
4x tropical island/breeding pool
2x flooded strand
1x island
1x volcanic island/steam vent

sb
1x platinum angel
4x xantid swarm
2x pithing needle
1x krosan grip
3x trygon predator
3x leyline of the void
1x rebuild

converted the storm kill build into a stroke build
i especially enjoy the stroke of genius targeting opponent then windfall kill
(dont worry i know both players draw huge off the windfall but i usually have 45+ cards left in the library when i stroke them post mirror)
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2008, 03:37:33 pm »

I think i liked the plat,titan,and big d in the build. Tho it makes me wonder if a shop build would work.
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2008, 09:21:34 pm »

-yeah well most of the time when i "go off" my board just gets shuffled back and if the platz was out i would have to just recast it (if i redrew it) and it stops the mirror from triggering which is kinda bad
-titan is pretty sweet now that i just realized that it has come into and leave play trigger (thanks for bringing that to my attention...people are gonnna hate when i use that leave play trigger with my graveyard and board going away...hehehe)
-whenever i tinker its been for a mirror or if mirror is out its for the jar and the mirror just gets broken again anyways after i draw a new hand with the jar
-in regards to the shop build are you suggesting the shop lands for the sake of speeding out a mirror?
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2008, 01:58:33 pm »

Good call on the plat.. and i do think that titan is the cats ass.


as for the shop build i just wonder how fast it could be with shops.
and you can also toss in the 5 strip lock with crucible.
and maybe throw in chalice the void main deck as well and so on.
tho it would be a totally different build from what i think you already have as a good build.
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2008, 04:12:00 pm »

here's a list that top 8'ed a few times recently


CVQ Montréal, 1 novembre 2008
Martin Bonneville
Deck: Mirroire Magique

Ancestrall Recall
Brainstom
Ponder
Timetwister
Tinker
Platinium Angel
Karveck's Torch
Memory Jar
4 Pact of Negation
4 Force of Will
4 Chromatic Star
4 Seinsei's Divining Top
4 Fabricate
4 Lich's Mirror
Demonic Tutor
Vampiric Tutor
Imperial Seal
Mystical Tutor
4 Personnal Tutor
Channel
4 City of Brass
4 Gemstone Mine
4 Forbidden Orchard
3 Tropical Island
Mox Emerald
Mox Sapphire
Black Lotus
Lotus Petal
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2008, 03:37:57 am »

@ mr. grim
i was also thinking about making room for ESG, bound//determined and research//developement (possibly a wish board so i don't have to worry about drawing them...maybe the 4th stroke in the side too...this will probably be included in version 3 coming up soon)
also i found this cool card called mangara's tome that i might try to pseudo doomsday some cards

i tested tonight b4 and after FNM
i ended up taking a 15 or so minute turn just kinda chatting with a friend and every so often i would interdict with "by the way i kill myself" and shuffle up the deck
i think i'm gonna do some more trimming and take some cues with the list salvager posted (there is just not enough room for all the fun i want to do)
the chromatic stars look like they can come in handy over playing the chrome mox
when i actually played against a person i found myself less willing to rfg to the mox

also i learned a new trick with the deck against slaver
he landed one slave turn took out my hand and on his turn played the welder and gave me one turn b4 he locked me up
trick was supposed to entered my attack phase floated a few mana exit my attack phase with one life left then floated like 5u 1g 1r and activated city of brass to kill myself and get to start in my second main post mirror
(he ended up destroying one of my mirrors with Viashino Heretic to kill me in my attack phase anyways)
so i floated all my mana anyways and drew 7 and scored another intuition ak lotus c-mox pact tinker mirror
so i intuitioned for ak ak rushing river
he gave me an ak
i double ak'd and got the channel mirror amongst the 5 i drew
i let out the channel and dropped mirror and tinkered the mox w/ the imprinted pact for a memory jar
popped the jar and responded by killing myself
then the store closed and i couldnt take my 15 minute turn
i looked at the first 7 real quick and laughed because it was a pure countering hand
second 7 had all the goodies to win i.e. big stroke and tutors
too bad i couldnt finish it out and never let him weld his slaver back  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2008, 03:18:00 pm »

Have you considered Read the Runes for card draw? I played against someone playing this deck with read the runes in it and it worked pretty well.
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2008, 05:26:19 pm »

good synergy with the mirror reshuffling of the grave
i will give it a whirl
seems good post mirror when you have a new 7 and you can dump a bunch of colorless mana and just keep the ideal 7 instead of the new 7

yeah with my testing the version i have just takes a half hour turn trying to get the best hand and float up enough mana for the stroke which is not by any means tournament worthy but it is funny when my friend knows it coming and sits there and watches my other friend play left for dead instead of watching me take my monster turn then quits before i stroke him just to be funny

i might just give over to the dark side with this deck and throw in a demon fire or something
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