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« on: January 19, 2009, 10:05:03 am »

Forsaken Thought XU

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Search your library for x artifacts that have a converted mana cost at x or less. 

I thought it got around being a one mana tutor for lotus, it now would cost 1U to grab a lotus. 
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2009, 01:18:40 pm »

And what do you do with them once you've found them? Hand? in play?
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2009, 08:55:20 am »

Missing the text 'reveal them, and put them into your hand.  Then shuffle yuour library.'
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2009, 08:52:45 pm »

This seems quite silly in Vintage.  It's more than free; you tap out to cast this for every artifact left in your deck; you get Moxen, Lotus, Sol Ring, and everything else.  That means more than the cost you spent playing it.
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2009, 01:03:41 am »

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This seems quite silly in Vintage.
My natural inclination is to say, "So? Vintage can take care of itself."

However, since this tutors up the entire Vault/Key combo for 2U...I am worried, even for vintage. I would remove the words "or less" to fix this.
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2009, 11:15:00 pm »

Maybe this could be a cool XY card.  Costs XYU, search for X artifacts that all cost Y or less?  Costs 1U to fetch lotus or any 0-cost artifact, costs 4U to fetch Vault/Key.

Or XX if you don't want to venture outside of the norm, even though there was a printing of Fireball that tried costing it at XYR.
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2009, 06:10:45 pm »

That alternative prevents them from getting Memory Jar but does nothing (and in fact makes it easier) to just tutor up a bunch of Moxen and then have the mana for whatever silly alternative you want.
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2009, 04:05:55 pm »

Forsaken Thoughts fixed! X1U

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Search your library for x artifacts with converted mana cost x or less, reveal them, and put them into your hand.  Then shuffle your library.

I don't see how it's "broken" now.  By the time you can grab key and time vault, you might as well just play tezzerret instead.  It's also a sorcery, meaning not eot shenanigans. 
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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2009, 04:48:30 pm »

I'm still uncomfortable with how this is basically free storm for a million.  It's free storm and mana acceleration.

Also, it should probably be UU instead of just U.
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2009, 01:18:07 am »

Forsaken Thoughts fixed! XUU

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Search your library for x artifacts with converted mana cost x or less, reveal them, and put them into your hand.  Then shuffle your library.

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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2009, 09:11:03 am »

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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2009, 10:51:37 am »

Forsaken Thoughts fixed! XUU

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Search your library for x artifacts with converted mana cost x or less, reveal them, and put them into your hand.  Then shuffle your library.


Better but surely you mean a combined total CMC of X or less? Otherwise you could do stupid things in pretty much any format.
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