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Author Topic: Viable U/B unpowered decks without Mana Drains?  (Read 2333 times)
Doomsday
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« on: July 30, 2009, 11:58:09 am »

Is there such a thing?  This would be for zero-proxy environments obviously. 

I have no power/Drains/Imperial Seal/Grim Tutors, but I have the rest of the usual U/B Vintage suspects and was hoping I'd still be able to play with my favorite broken cards.  I searched around and could only find Menendian's sui-Black, and a UB Fish Tempo topic here from 2005.  If it's not at all viable to do this please feel free to just let me know.

Any help is appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2009, 12:47:04 pm »

Maybe something fishesque like this thing here: http://www.morphling.de/top8decks.php?id=910&highlight=location

Sports a lot of disruption and Dreadnought synergizes well with Confidant, making you fast. It looks kinda odd, but with some minor tweaks it should work.
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2009, 04:41:50 am »

I was trying to create a UB aiming to destroy opponent's library with heavy mana denial

4-mind funeral
4-glimpse the unthinkable
4-extirpate
3-planar void

4-sinkhole
4-null rod
5-wasteland
2/3-stifle


4-fow
daze, misdirection,confidant

the idea is that most t1 decks play 15-18 lands, so a mind funeral easily takes 14-15 by mean. Also, wasteland+extirpate takes out 3-4 duals (extirpate alone takes fetchlands).

Ichorid could be happy if we fill its graveyard, but we can easily cut off bazaar, and we have extirpate and planar void.

Creatures are our biggest problems, but playing black we can have a big SB against creatures.



Only an idea, haven't tested it
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2009, 02:39:20 pm »

Can Phyrexian Negators + a Tinker target work as a win condition?  I remember seeing them in sideboards of some older combo decks, are they too slow even if the rest of the deck is stuff like Null Rod, Chalice, Strip/Waste/Crucible, Duress, FoW, etc?
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2009, 06:57:54 pm »

So, if I wanted to run something starting with:

4x Chalice of the Void
4x Null Rod
4x Wasteland
1x Strip Mine
2x Crucible of Worlds
4x Duress

4x Phyrexian Negator
4x Dark Confidant
1x Yawgmoth's Will
1x Yawgmoth's Bargain
1x Necropotence
4x Dark Ritual

then is there enough blue I can add to support Force of Will?  And if not, is it worth splashing blue for just stuff like Brainstorm, Gifts, Tinker + target & Mystical Tutor?

Edit:  Also, do you guys think the Crucible/Strip combo is strong enough to justify running 3 or 4 Crucibles instead of 2, and a bunch of Entombs?
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