Isn't this a little hypocritical?

[vartemis]

I don't read many of wizards' articles (other than when it's spoiler time), but I wanted to check out an article mentioning the store I used to work at who had the honor of hosting the 2-millionth sanctioned tournament (Go Jay!).

This is the article in question.

The problem I have with this article is the decklists and reccomendations the author puts up as ideas for decks.  They don't appear to be competitive in nature, but more something along the lines of what I would play around the kitchen table with some mates and some beer.  Look at the cards he has chosen.

Deck 1
10 new fetchlands
11 mythics (including 4 lotus cobras)

Deck 2
8 new fetchlands
16 mythics (8 planeswalkers, 4 time warps, and 4 lotus cobras (there it is again))

Deck 3
4 Day of judgment
8 mythics (4 baneslayer angel, 4 planeswalker (although probably going to be the cheapest one of the set)

Considering the tone of the article, and their self-proclaimed majority market being the casual gamer, who is actually going to assemble these decks?  I'll proxy em out for fun, but the amount of $$$ required to put these together to play some Emperor or 2hg is ridiculous.

I think my biggest beef is the number of mythics required to make these decks.  I believe we were told that these cards would not be "staples" but more along the lines of special effects, characters, and "cool" cards.  Unfortunately these cards are so "cool" that apparently your deck is going to suck unless you can scrounge together playsets of these expensive and slightly harder to find cards.

I was kind of looking forward to getting back into magic with this set and planechase, but this article has given me pause to rethink whether it is such a good idea after all.

Anyone else want to chime in on this?

Cheers,

j

[LotusHead]

Casual Gamers aren't always budget players. 
My brother in law has probably more than 100 dual lands to fuel his casual decks (this includes Ravnica duels and onslaught fetchlands).

Are you really complaining about "potential t2 decks" on TMD?

Even if the T2 decks are weak in your opinion (I have no opinion as I have no idea about the state of T2 decks), are competetive decks that much more/less expensive historically?

[vartemis]

Casual Gamers aren't always budget players. 
My brother in law has probably more than 100 dual lands to fuel his casual decks (this includes Ravnica duels and onslaught fetchlands).

Are you really complaining about "potential t2 decks" on TMD?

Even if the T2 decks are weak in your opinion (I have no opinion as I have no idea about the state of T2 decks), are competetive decks that much more/less expensive historically?

I didn't really view them as "potential type 2 decks" (although I suppose that's what they are), but more along the lines of "potential casual decks".  I also don't keep up with T2, but I can click on a T2 decklist and get an approximate cost of what it would be to assemble it.  The cost I would associate with these decks is on par with what I would expect a competitive deck to cost.  The main point I was getting at was more about the mythics, and that they clearly goofed with a couple of them (I assume everyone can see it in the Lotus Cobra).  The high priced rares are just the icing on the cake.

As for posting about potential T2 decks on TMD, that's why I stuck this in the comunity forum instead of the vintage.  I suppose it could have gone in casual, but it was more about how quickly the concept of the mythic rare has changed from what I understood it to be.  I can see planeswalkers and other legendary stuff, but these rarer cards are becoming "must-haves" to build a competitive deck.  Perhaps I just misunderstood the mythic rare's intentions.

j

[Matt]

I have seen people drop a LOT of money on their casual decks.

I actually agree with Wizards' stated (in MaRo's latest column) goal for mythics, which is: they should be cards that make you take notice and REMEMBER the craziness that comes with them. What I disagree with is whether some of the Zendikar mythics actually meet that description.

[vartemis]

I have seen people drop a LOT of money on their casual decks.

I actually agree with Wizards' stated (in MaRo's latest column) goal for mythics, which is: they should be cards that make you take notice and REMEMBER the craziness that comes with them. What I disagree with is whether some of the Zendikar mythics actually meet that description.

Yeah, I just read the column.  I agree too, but like you said, this latest set really seems to be blurring the line.

Bah well.

j