Paradigm Shift/Soldevi Digger/jesters cap

[waffles]

Paradigm Shift/Soldevi Digger/Jesters Cap, i was thinking of using Priest of Titania to power this combo but im not sure how to go about asssembling this. avague idea of it would look like this


Paradigm Shift x4
Soldevi Digger x2
Jesters Cap x2
dunno maybe Grinning Totem x2 or Helm of Obedience x2
Enlightened Tutor x4

as for the rest of it im at a loss

[urweak]

 You remove your library from the game and then do what?

[waffles]

You remove your library from the game and then do what?

the idea is to recycle the jesters cap back into the library, activate it, rince and repeat.

[hvndr3d y34r h3x]

You realize doing that will take for-3V4R! (and time is something you don't have in this format), a lot of decks don't die to a single cap activation, null rod is everywhere, and elves are not a reliable source of mana in vintage. They are just to slow.

[waffles]

You realize doing that will take for-3V4R! (and time is something you don't have in this format), a lot of decks don't die to a single cap activation, null rod is everywhere, and elves are not a reliable source of mana in vintage. They are just to slow.

i realise it would take a while to remove the whole deck, punishment for playing said deck  But, one cap will usually eat a good portion of their win condition, if not all of it. Such is the case of Oath, one cap will mess it up. So, i dont have to remove the whole library just their win condition. But i think i have an idea for a shell, ill just use goblin/slaver shell

[John Jones]

You realize doing that will take for-3V4R! (and time is something you don't have in this format), a lot of decks don't die to a single cap activation, null rod is everywhere, and elves are not a reliable source of mana in vintage. They are just to slow.

i realise it would take a while to remove the whole deck, punishment for playing said deck  But, one cap will usually eat a good portion of their win condition, if not all of it. Such is the case of Oath, one cap will mess it up. So, i dont have to remove the whole library just their win condition. But i think i have an idea for a shell, ill just use goblin/slaver shell

Hmm... my intial thoughts it is going to be a bad deck. Can you build it and test it a few times and see how it does and let us know?

[hvndr3d y34r h3x]

You realize doing that will take for-3V4R! (and time is something you don't have in this format), a lot of decks don't die to a single cap activation, null rod is everywhere, and elves are not a reliable source of mana in vintage. They are just to slow.

i realise it would take a while to remove the whole deck, punishment for playing said deck  But, one cap will usually eat a good portion of their win condition, if not all of it. Such is the case of Oath, one cap will mess it up. So, i dont have to remove the whole library just their win condition. But i think i have an idea for a shell, ill just use goblin/slaver shell

I'm not talking about your deck being to slow because it takes a long time to remove the entire library. I mean it's to slow to do anything relivant at all.
what  makes you think you can get up 6 mana to cast and activate cap befor an oath player gets up 2 mana and passes the turn? not to mention what you do when they negate/force your cap to buy more time. Obviously you might steal a game one every once and a while with cap, but all modern oath decks can sb against cap. You have to keep in mind that people can always put their win conditions in they're hand or on the table. In that case even if you get this "combo" going you will lose the game anyways. You also have to consider what a meta game force bug fish is with it's 10+ win conditions and 4x null rod main. If you want to play a mill win condition I'd recomend painter/grindstone.

[waffles]

You realize doing that will take for-3V4R! (and time is something you don't have in this format), a lot of decks don't die to a single cap activation, null rod is everywhere, and elves are not a reliable source of mana in vintage. They are just to slow.

i realise it would take a while to remove the whole deck, punishment for playing said deck  But, one cap will usually eat a good portion of their win condition, if not all of it. Such is the case of Oath, one cap will mess it up. So, i dont have to remove the whole library just their win condition. But i think i have an idea for a shell, ill just use goblin/slaver shell

I'm not talking about your deck being to slow because it takes a long time to remove the entire library. I mean it's to slow to do anything relivant at all.
what  makes you think you can get up 6 mana to cast and activate cap befor an oath player gets up 2 mana and passes the turn? not to mention what you do when they negate/force your cap to buy more time. Obviously you might steal a game one every once and a while with cap, but all modern oath decks can sb against cap. You have to keep in mind that people can always put their win conditions in they're hand or on the table. In that case even if you get this "combo" going you will lose the game anyways. You also have to consider what a meta game force bug fish is with it's 10+ win conditions and 4x null rod main. If you want to play a mill win condition I'd recomend painter/grindstone.

id rather exile then mill too many ways to get the graveyard back. As for getting the cap into play, id just weld it in. But that kinda makes the other two cards not as useful

[hvndr3d y34r h3x]

You realize if you painter/grind stone mill some one, they die befor there main phase, they can't cast things like regrowth or will. Next to no one is playing krosan reclimation dsc or progenitus right now. Not to mention painter grindstone is a viable deck and this multi cap creation is not. you could at least play sadistic sacrament over cap seein as it does the same thing for half the cost.
I would like to add that even if your get paired up with oath, you can laways sb in any of your ichorid hate like crypt or extirpate to hit blessing with the trigger on the stack. Or go the aggro route and blast the crap out of oaths.

[waffles]

You realize if you painter/grind stone mill some one, they die befor there main phase, they can't cast things like regrowth or will. Next to no one is playing krosan reclimation dsc or progenitus right now. Not to mention painter grindstone is a viable deck and this multi cap creation is not. you could at least play sadistic sacrament over cap seein as it does the same thing for half the cost.

till you meet someone with gaea's blessing...but okay, ill give up this foolish quest.

[John Jones]

The only people who play gaeas blessing now are the ones  that still run it as  a 1-of in oath. In which case if you cap them you win the game.

[waffles]

The only people who play gaeas blessing now are the ones  that still run it as  a 1-of in oath. In which case if you cap them you win the game.

a few side it in vs painter

[jaeppel]

Most of the top eight decklists that i see out there do not, in fact side in gaea's blessing.  in fact i would say a more accurate comment is "almost no one sides in gaea's blessing vs. painter." 

if you want to play cap.dec its now become sacrament.dec.  if you want to play mill.dec, its painter.  with leyline in painter you can get the exile effect without jumping through so many hoops.  Leyline+Helm of Obedience exiles the library in one shot for a grand total of nine mana (assuming you didnt get leyline for free).

I played a cap/digger control deck before.  it was alot of fun in 1996, but in the intervening years alot of cards have entered the pool, rendering certain strategies completely outdated.  I would suggest doing some research on actual top eight decklists to see the sort of stuff being played now, then start this idea over from scratch.

[waffles]

Most of the top eight decklists that i see out there do not, in fact side in gaea's blessing.  in fact i would say a more accurate comment is "almost no one sides in gaea's blessing vs. painter." 

if you want to play cap.dec its now become sacrament.dec.  if you want to play mill.dec, its painter.  with leyline in painter you can get the exile effect without jumping through so many hoops.  Leyline+Helm of Obedience exiles the library in one shot for a grand total of nine mana (assuming you didnt get leyline for free).

I played a cap/digger control deck before.  it was alot of fun in 1996, but in the intervening years alot of cards have entered the pool, rendering certain strategies completely outdated.  I would suggest doing some research on actual top eight decklists to see the sort of stuff being played now, then start this idea over from scratch.

i did do research on them,i played vs them, yes i lost, and a few ppl where i play do infact side against it. but ive given up trying to bring this back its better off in the casual pile.