lots of questions been out for a while

[serracollector]

1. If selkie attacks a planes walker, do you still get to draw?  i.e does a planes walker count as an opponent or a player?

2. If I have Kataki in play, and my Opponent has a Mana Crypt, Smoke stack with 1 counter, and Sphere in play, can they tap the mana crypt to pay for the smokestack and sphere, and sack the crypt to the smokestack without ever having to pay for it?

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5.  Can you do some kind of trick where you can cast Tidehollow Sculler, remove a card from opponents hand, then bounce/remove the Sculler in response to it's second effect so that you never have to return the card, or is this completely impossible?

6.  When exactly can you interrupt a 2 part card, is it when it says "then" or "If" or....?  

7. Is this scenario possible.  I cast demonic tutor, my opponent forks it, search library for a counterspell, and counters it.  Thus they managed to copy a spell that never existed......time travel is possible in magic?

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This post has been edited to remove various non-rules questions, which were more of an expression of dissatisfaction with changes by WotC than questions at all.  There are appropriate forums for such discussions, the Rules Forum is NOT one of them.

Also please make your topics reflect the content of the questions inside the post, so it can be of use to others browsing the forum. (And if necessary, separate posts for completely unrelated questions)

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[Yare]

1. No, a planeswalker is not a player, so Selkie won't trigger.

2. Yes. The fact that you control Kataki doesn't change the fact that the trigger's source is the artifact itself, not Kataki. Since your opponent controls all the triggers, he gets to stack them in the order he likes. He can stack them to achieve what you suggest. I covered issues like this in example 6 of this article.

3. Not a rules question. This has been discussed at length elsewhere.

4. Not a rules question. This has been discussed at length elsewhere.

5. Yes. One way to to do it: In response to the comes into play trigger you just bounce the Sculler (i.e., return it to your hand using Chain of Vapor or something), causing its leaves play trigger to trigger. Since the leaves play trigger is now on top of the stack, it resolves first, but does nothing since a card hasn't been exiled yet. The comes into play trigger resolves and then a card is exiled. At this point there is no way for the exiled card to come back because the trigger that would return it has already resolved.

6. You can't interrupt the resolution of a spell. If you have a more specific question, please ask it.

7. Yes, this is possible.

8. Not a rules question. This has also been discussed at length.

I think you would benefit greatly from reading my article, Priority and the Stack. Note that the combat rules have slightly changed since this article was originally published, so it's a little outdated in that regard.

[Clariax]

7. Is this scenario possible.  I cast demonic tutor, my opponent forks it, search library for a counterspell, and counters it.  Thus they managed to copy a spell that never existed......time travel is possible in magic?

Yare's answers are all correct, but the answer to this question could use a bit more detail.  It's not correct to say the spell never existed.  The spell definitely did exist, it was on the stack to be targetted with Fork.  The spell was simply countered, which, again, can't be done if it never existed at all.

[serracollector]

Thank you for your answers sorry for the others.  I just missed a lot it seems.  Different meta entirely now.  Anyways, on the tidehollow, I can bounce him, can you sac him in reponse, to say a creature with some special ability? Does that stack on top first as well, and work the same?  If so it could be a very good card.

[Yare]

Thank you for your answers sorry for the others.  I just missed a lot it seems.  Different meta entirely now.  Anyways, on the tidehollow, I can bounce him, can you sac him in reponse, to say a creature with some special ability? Does that stack on top first as well, and work the same?  If so it could be a very good card.

Sure. If you had something like Goblin Bombardment in play, you could sacrifice him in response to the comes into play trigger and do the trick the same way I described it above.

[serracollector]

Does he work with Tidesprout Tyrant like crazy good?  I know a doubtful combo to pull off but just asking

[Yare]

Does he work with Tidesprout Tyrant like crazy good?  I know a doubtful combo to pull off but just asking

Yes and no. Yes if you are trying to return him due to playing a spell other than him (say, Ancestral Recall). However, when you play Sculler, Tyrant's ability will trigger and you have to pick a target at that time. Since Sculler won't be in play yet, you won't be able to target Sculler and won't be able to pull off the trick in this way.

I really recommend reading my article on triggered abilities, which I linked in the first post. It explains a lot of this stuff.

[serracollector]

I read your article yet I still do not understand:

I can:
Cast Tidehollow
Discard goes on stack
I cast "bounce"
Return goes on stack
let bounce resolve

stack looks like
Return card
Discard card

so return goes first, nothing to return, discard goes thru, remove card permanently, I understand this.

Well how can you bounce the creature in this scenerio if its not in play? Just like you can't with tidesprout?  whats the difference between his ability triggering, and me casting an instant bounce spell?  I don't understand.

[Clariax]

Tidehollow Sculler's enter the battlefield trigger triggers when it enters the battlefield.  At this time it is on the battlefield.  It's a legal target for a (most) bounce spell.  So, after the Sculler resolves, while it's EtB trigger is on the stack, you can play something to cause it to leave the battlefiled, causing it's LtB trigger to trigger while the EtB trigger is still on the stack, so the LtB trigger resolves first, returning nothing (since nothing has been exiled yet), then the EtB trigger resolves exiling the card indefinitely, since there's now nothing to return it .