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Diakonov
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« on: January 22, 2010, 11:13:45 am »

I know that this has been discussed at length in the past, but I just wanted to be absolutely certain in case the scenario ever arises (which is very possible).

Suppose I have Vault/Key going with Regrowth and Gaea's Blessing in my deck.  My only offensive card in my deck is Ancestral.  My goal is to Ancestral my opponent, Regrowth it to do it again, Blessing the Regrowth and Ancestral back into my deck, Regrowth the Blessing, Ancestral, repeat.  Also, my opponent has no ability to stop me from doing this, no matter how many cards I allow him/her to draw.

Let's say I am playing at a realistic pace to achieve this goal, and not stalling in a sense of pretending to think or making purposefully game-elongating decisions.  Would this strategy be fair, or would I be penalized in some fashion?  

The reason I am asking is because one could argue that the choice of strategy could be considered stalling, since it could very likely take a long time to achieve this goal.  If there is a reasonable way to win more quickly, then I would be more inclined to agree that it is stalling, but what if for some reason you ended up in this scenario without any other option?

My guess is that this choice of strategy would be legal in this case, and it would be up to the opponent to decide if they should concede.  Also, is the judge allowed to tell the opponent that you are ultimately able to win, even though the opponent hasn't figured out what you're doing and therefore believes you are stalling?
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2010, 12:07:25 pm »

If you can prove you have a loop, you may take the shortcut and tell you opponent you will repeat the steps in the loop 1 million times. At which point he can interrupt the loop at any moment if he has any effects (like when he has 1 card left in his deck and wants to try something).

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Also, is the judge allowed to tell the opponent that you are ultimately able to win, even though the opponent hasn't figured out what you're doing and therefore believes you are stalling?

No, that would be giving away information. Imagine if your opponent runs a single card for disrupting your combo, the judge cannot reveal that, as the card may be the last one in the deck and he may not have a chance to use it.


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Let's say I am playing at a realistic pace to achieve this goal, and not stalling in a sense of pretending to think or making purposefully game-elongating decisions.  Would this strategy be fair, or would I be penalized in some fashion? 

As long as you are playing in a timely fashion in order make the game progress, in this case, by having your opponent draw 3 cards per turn, it is not stalling.
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2010, 01:27:22 pm »

This was already discussed rather extensively a few months ago here, here, and here.  And the questions being asked here have already been asked and answered in those posts.  If you have something new to add, add it there as appropriate.  Asking the same questions as were previously asked will result in the same answers, however.
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