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« on: January 22, 2010, 10:00:46 pm »

Greetins, I open this thread to discuss the answers Red Stax may have against Bant and by the way, get a bit informed about it.

The main hate cards I saw were:

Razormane Masticore
Reb/Pyro for Trygon and counter
Ensnaring Bridge
Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
Barbarian Ring
Pithing naming Qasali
Duplicant
Triskiż?
Rolling Earthquake
Pyroclasm etc (forgot those lol)

I'd like to know if im missing any important card/strategy to adopt with a Mono R Stax this matchup which seems pretty hard and how you guys would face this matchup.

Thanks for any further info!
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2010, 11:13:59 pm »

Rolling Earthquake?
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2010, 02:19:08 am »

There's always Pyroclasm/Firespout as well.
I think Trike is the best if you have no Rods in the deck; if you're running Null Rod then Razormane is probably the hardest to deal with.
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2010, 07:15:20 am »

Thanks for the replies, it seems like razormane is the way to go.
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2010, 04:08:27 pm »

Words of War is tech that Vroman used in some of his Uba Stax builds.  Basically, you want a stream of shocks against fish and this guarantees them.  It also "combos" with Bazaar to give you extra shocks.
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2010, 04:47:41 pm »

Thanks for the replies, it seems like razormane is the way to go.

I don't fully agree.
You need to prevent them to have Qasali/trygon predator active beofre you do to make it effective.
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2010, 11:10:47 pm »

Words of War is tech that Vroman used in some of his Uba Stax builds.  Basically, you want a stream of shocks against fish and this guarantees them.  It also "combos" with Bazaar to give you extra shocks.

Seems awesome to me, in Red Stax with Bazaar it could kick asses.

Thanks for the replies, it seems like razormane is the way to go.

I don't fully agree.
You need to prevent them to have Qasali/trygon predator active beofre you do to make it effective.

True but Qasali will take away something every time you hate it, even if you cast a Lightning (lol) it will sac and destroy whatever you have.

Trygon is another issue. Welder + Duplicant?
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2010, 10:38:10 am »

Firespout remains my wepon of choice in 5cStax, with 2 dullpliquants and 2 razormane masticore.
I was testing rolling earthquake (which was too mana intensive) so i decided to go for the G sqplash just for the sideboard.
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2010, 10:41:18 am »

Trygon is another issue. Welder + Duplicant?

Razormane is a fine answer for Trygon.  Bazaar him into your yard and weld him in during your upkeep.  He shoots creatures during the draw step.
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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2010, 06:11:21 pm »

Firespout remains my wepon of choice in 5cStax, with 2 dullpliquants and 2 razormane masticore.
I was testing rolling earthquake (which was too mana intensive) so i decided to go for the G sqplash just for the sideboard.

Last tournament Rolling Earthquake would have won me a match that ended tied with Bant, (i played pyroclasm, which i run as replacement).

Trygon is another issue. Welder + Duplicant?

Razormane is a fine answer for Trygon.  Bazaar him into your yard and weld him in during your upkeep.  He shoots creatures during the draw step.


Hard to set up, plus sadly I don't have Bazaars and I don't currently run them, BTW welding in a Masticore is my usual play against trygon right now.
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