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« on: October 11, 2010, 01:47:17 pm »

Saw the results posted here: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=276113

In fact, all 50 decklists are posted there. 

Not sure why no one thought to post them on the Mana Drain.  Do none of those players know about the Mana Drain?  Or are they just lazy? 

On Saturday Meta Games (in Melbourne, Australia) held a sanctioned Vintage tournament. Prizes were as follows:

1st: Beta Mox Pearl
2nd: Library of Alexandria
3rd: Mana Drain
4th: Mana Drain
5th - 8th: Force of Will
Highest placed non-powered deck: Mana Drain

Final standings:

1 Dan Dowse Stax
2 Daniel Unwin Jace Control
3 Adam Douglas Dredge
4 Kenneth Cheong Oath
5 Jason Scott Stax
6 Isaac Egan Jace Control
7 Liam Prasad Jace Control
8 Desmond Ng Dredge

9 Weng Sun Cheong Food Chain Goblins
10 Simon Qu Metalworker Mud
11 Karl Reeves Platinum Mud
12 Ezekiel Guilfoyle Dredge
13 Russell Phillips Hex Depths
14 Neil Kane Stax
15 Jeff Chan Oath
16 Daniel King Oath
17 Tim Tai Stax
18 Neil Crompton Stax
19 Yunus Yuksel Zoo
20 Stephen Campbell Mono-Blue Control
21 Chris Evans Precursor Mud
22 Justin Cheung Jace Control
23 Rei Barker Stax
24 Roberto Leiva Hex Depths
25 Jackie Ng Stax
26 Alex Sutton Hex Depths
27 Nick Ditty Dredge
28 Lee Greaves Gargadon Mud
29 Aloysius Landrigan Sui-Black
30 Socrates Stavropoulous Jace Control
31 Troy Ferguson Dredge
32 Glenn Shanley Tezzeret Control
33 Vince Feleppa Dredge
34 Shamsul Kamal Noble Fish
35 Thomas Ribet GW Beats
36 Andrew Kerrigan Elves!
37 Scott Lennon GAT
38 Matthew Pohlen Dredge
39 Rhys Gould Noble Fish
40 Andy Horne Cerebral Assassin
41 Terry Walters Dragon Mud
42 Luke Williams Dredge
43 John Lee Burn
44 Tim Dolphin Oath
45 Wilfy Horig GAT
46 Nick Fulton Merfolk
47 Sean Hettich Storm
48 Matt Antonello Lich's Mirror
49 Graham King Noble Fish
50 Brendan Roper Sligh

In the quarter-finals Adam Douglas defeated Liam Prasad, Daniel Unwin defeated Desmond Ng, Dan Dowse defeated Isaac Egan, and Kenneth Cheong defeated Jason Scott. In the semi-finals Daniel Unwin defeated Adam Douglas and Dan Dowse defeated Kenneth Cheong. In the finals Dan Dowse defeated Daniel Unwin.

Decklists:

1 Dan Dowse Stax

4 Smokestack
4 Crucible of Worlds
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Tangle Wire
4 Sphere of Resistance
1 Trinisphere
4 Lodestone Golem
4 Goblin Welder
2 Triskelion
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
3 Bazaar of Baghdad
4 Mishra's Workshop
2 Ancient Tomb
3 Barbarian Ring
3 Mountain
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt

Sideboard:
4 Greater Garadon
4 Shattering Spree
3 Ensnaring Bridge
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Tormod's Crypt

2 Daniel Unwin Jace Control

3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
4 Dark Confidant
2 Vendilion Clique
4 Preordain
4 Force of Will
3 Mana Drain
2 Spell Pierce
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Black Lotus
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Hurkyll's Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Brainstorm
1 Rack and Ruin
1 Time Vault
1 Voltaic Key
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Tinker
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
3 Underground Sea
2 Volcanic Island
4 Polluted Delta
2 Island
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Swamp
1 Flooded Strand
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Misty Rainforest

Sideboard:
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Pyroblast
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Volcanic Island
1 Darkblast
1 Ravenous Trap
3 Hurkyl's Recall

3 Adam Douglas Dredge

4 Bazaar of Baghdad
4 Golgari Grave-Troll
4 Stinkweed Imp
4 Bloodghast
4 Fatestitcher
4 Narcomoeba
3 Golgari Thug
3 Sharuum the Hegemon
4 Serum Powder
4 Bridge from Below
4 Cabal Therapy
3 Dread Return
1 Lion's Eye Diamond
1 Altar of Dementia
1 Possessed Portal
1 Lotus Petal
1 Breakthrough
4 Undiscovered Paradise
3 City of Brass
1 Seat of the Synod
1 Cephalid Coliseum
1 Petrified Field

Sideboard:
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Leyline of Sanctity
3 Nature's Claim
3 Chain of Vapor

4 Kenneth Cheong Oath

2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
4 Oath of Druids
4 Force of Will
1 Time Vault
1 Forest
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Voltaic Key
1 Tinker
1 Island
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Misdirection
1 Tropical Island
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
1 Progenitus
1 Polluted Delta
3 Underground Sea
3 Thoughtseize
1 Ponder
2 Spell Pierce
1 Time Walk
1 Inkwell Leviathan
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Brainstorm
1 Demonic Tutor
2 Mana Drain
1 Yawgmoth's Will
4 Forbidden Orchard
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Mana Crypt
1 Strip Mine
1 Black Lotus
1 Show and Tell
1 Lim-Dul's Vault
1 Sensei's Divining Top

Sideboard:
4 Leyline of the Void
3 Nature's Claim
2 Red Elemental Blast
2 Pithing Needle
1 Volcanic Island
1 Darkblast
1 Firespout
1 Terastodon

5 Jason Scott Stax

4 Mishra's Workshop
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
1 Tolarian Academy
3 Bazaar of Baghdad
2 Ancient Tomb
3 Barbarian Ring
3 Mountain
2 Duplicant
4 Goblin Welder
1 Karn, Silver Golem
4 Lodestone Golem
4 Tangle Wire
3 Crucible of Worlds
3 Smokestack
4 Sphere of Resistance
4 Thorn of Amethyst
1 Trinisphere
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald

Sideboard:
4 Greater Gargadon
4 Shattering Spree
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Tormod's Crypt
2 Triskelion
1 Maze of Ith

6 Isaac Egan Jace Control

3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
4 Dark Confidant
2 Vendilion Clique
1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
1 Time Vault
1 Voltaic Key
1 Tinker
1 Yawgmoth's Will
4 Force of Will
3 Mana Drain
2 Spell Pierce
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Rack and Ruin
4 Preordain
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Brainstorm
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Swamp
2 Island
4 Polluted Delta
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Flooded Strand
1 Tolarian Academy
3 Underground Sea
3 Volcanic Island

Sideboard:
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Pyroblast
2 Ravenous Trap
2 Hurkyl's Recall
2 Pyroclasm
1 Darkblast

7 Liam Prasad Jace Control

3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
4 Dark Confidant
2 Vendilion Clique
1 Brainstorm
1 Nature's Claim
4 Force of Will
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mana Crypt
1 Time Walk
1 Time Vault
1 Voltaic Key
1 Black Lotus
1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
1 Mystical Tutor
4 Preordain
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Tinker
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Merchant Scroll
2 Spell Pierce
3 Mana Drain
1 Sol Ring
2 Tropical Island
2 Island
1 Tolarian Academy
4 Polluted Delta
1 Swamp
3 Underground Sea
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Misty Rainforest

Sideboard:
4 Leyline of the Void
3 Nature's Claim
3 Pyroblast
2 Sower of Temptation
1 Volcanic Island
1 Darkblast
1 Forest

8 Desmond Ng Dredge

4 Bazaar of Baghdad
4 Bloodghast
1 Flame-Kin Zealot
4 Golgari Grave-Troll
2 Golgari Thug
2 Ichorid
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
4 Narcomoeba
4 Stinkweed Imp
1 Darkblast
2 Nature's Claim
4 Cabal Therapy
2 Dread Return
4 Bridge from Below
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Serum Powder
1 Lion's Eye Diamond
3 Fatestitcher
2 City of Brass
1 Dakmor Salvage
2 Petrified Field
4 Undiscovered Paradise

Sideboard:
4 Leyline of Sanctity
3 Chain of Vapor
3 Unmask
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Nature's Claim
1 City of Brass
1 Gemstone Mine
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2010, 02:16:44 pm »

So lots of Preordains in the top8 and the first Gushes in the upper thirties. Interesting.
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2010, 04:25:11 pm »

So lots of Preordains in the top8 and the first Gushes in the upper thirties. Interesting.

Still, no Gush invasion in top 8. That's even more interesting.
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2010, 06:19:05 pm »

So lots of Preordains in the top8 and the first Gushes in the upper thirties. Interesting.

Don't forget this beast at 20th place

16 Islands
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring
1 Transmute Artifact
1 Mana Crypt
1 Timetwister
1 Time Walk
1 Mana Vault
1 Time Vault
1 Brainstorm
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Tinker
1 Black Lotus
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Lotus Petal
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Voltaic Key
1 Sapphire Medallion
1 Predict
1 Capsize
1 Whispers of the Muse
2 Into the Roil
2 Gush
1 Mnemonic Wall
1 Remand
3 Memory Lapse
3 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
1 Scrivener
1 Trinket Mage

Sideboard:
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Mishra's Workshop
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
1 Reconstruction
2 Sapphire Medallion
2 Man-o-War
2 Energy Flux
2 Leyline of the Void
3 Simian Spirit Guide
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2010, 08:16:29 pm »

Thanks for posting these Stephen.  I tried to post them a few days ago but it wouldn't let me start a thread.

This event was the biggest Vintage tourney we've ever had in Australia, and the first sanctioned Vintage in Melbourne in two years, so it's a pretty big deal for us.  Smile

I think the lack of Gush is more a reflection of the slow speed of adaptation here.  I would expect more if we had another tourney like this in the near future.

In 12 Mishra's Workshop decks (excluding Cerebral Assassin and the Mono-Blue Control deck with a Workshop in the sideboard) there were:

48 Lodestone Golem (maximum)
44 Sphere of Resistance
40 Tangle Wire
36 Chalice of the Void
36 Crucible of Worlds
33 Thorn of Amethyst
31 Goblin Welder
27 Ancient Tomb
23 Duplicant
22 Smokestack
19 Greater Gargadon
17 Razormane Masticore
16 Bazaar of Baghdad
13 Karn, Silver Golem
13 Triskelion
13 Barbarian Ring
10 sideboard Null Rod
2 maindeck Null Rod (me)


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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2010, 08:51:17 pm »

I tried to post here as well, but was unable to start a thread. Heres a short tourny report I wrote

My Vintage Legends story actually starts a week before the event. So the AFL (Australian Football League) grandfinal was a draw, resulting in a replay the following weekend......OH NO thats Vintage Legends. Whilst everyone at the BBQ was high-fiving and celebrating the idea of doing it all again the following weekend, I was torn on what to do.

I'm no huge AFL supporter, but I have been attending the same BBQ event for the past 4yrs on GrandFinal Day. I cook the BBQ at my friends place for 30-50 people. Whilst i don't care about watching the footy, I really enjoy the massive party and catch up. I actually had been out drinking the night beofre the 1st AFL grandfinal and crashed at the people hosting the saturday events place. We got up at 9:30am and started drinkign Gin & Cranberry juice whilst i made banana pancakes for breakfast.

After some hard thinking i finally decided on thursday that I would be playing magic. The AFL grandfinal is an annual event and so is the Vintage Legends tourny. The AFL, had had their day, now it was time for Vintage to have its. Below is my decklist and a brief description of what i remember from the day.

Main Deck
4 Smokestack
4 Crucible of Worlds
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Tangle Wire
4 Sphere of Resistance
1 Trinisphere
4 Lodestone Golem
4 Goblin Welder
2 Triskelion

4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
3 Bazaar of Baghdad
4 Mishra's Workshop
2 Ancient Tomb
3 Barbarian Ring
3 Mountain
1 Tolarian Academy
5 Mox
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt

Sideboard
4 Greater Garadon
4 Shattering Spree
3 Ensnaring Bridge
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Tormod's Crypt

I don't own a Black Lotus at the moment, so i played a second Ancient Tomb instead. Whilst its a colourless mana source, I felt that was fine as I have 3 Bazaar's to find red sources and its still acceleration. Also helps being an extra perm. However I'd probably cut 1-2 Crucibles as i had a few instances through out the day where I drew multiples. But the problem was compounded as I didn't have a bazaar to filter them. Otherwise i was really happy with the list.

I played the following matchups

WIN - Noble Fish
WIN - Dredge
WIN - Jace Control
WIN - Dregde
ID - Jace Control
LOST - Jace Control
WIN - Jace Control same as round 5
WIN - Oath
WIN - Jace Control same as round 6

Round 1 - Rhys Gould with Noble Fish 2-0
I was on the draw and and started off a bit conecerned as my opponent has 2 Hierach, Pridemage & Clique in play to my cruicble, sphere & Lodestone. I Barbiran Ring the Clique and he pops my Lodestone with pridemage and Claims my Crucible and continues the beat down with the hierach. But I rip another golem to race, whilst also keeping him off enough mana to cast Kataki. Ripping another barbrian ring to take down a hierach is enough to get me there.


Game 2 has my opponent mulligan to 6 and start with Plains. I throw down a chalice at 2 and passing back. My opponent adds a Lotus Petal to his board and passes the turn back. I through down a smoke stack and suspend Gargadon and my opponent never plays another permanant, seeing him scoop them up whilst I have Smokey, CoTV @2, Crucible and 3 Gargadon's suspended.

Round 2 - Matthew Pohlen with Dredge 2-0
I mulligan to 5 whilst my opponent mulligans to 3 and serum powders before finding Bazaar. On the play i throw down Bazaar, Mox, Mana Vault & Trinisphere. He drops a Bazaar and I play a waste land on the bazaar with him discarding nothing really of note except for a Thug. He manages to get 3 rainbow lands and is beating me down with a thug and dredged Narco. I get a welder to the board and waste more lands, and eventually bazaar into both Trikes and have crucible lock.

Game 2 sees my opponent keep his 7, starting with a Leyline of the Void, Bazaar and Unmasking my T.Crypt. I play my Welder and pass it back to him. I hide under an ensnaring bridge with a bazaar in play until I set a CoTV at 1 and play some sphere effects in fear of a dread return Woodfall Primus that I saw in game 1. I lay down a second bridge in the face of a zombie army, due to ichrod's & bridge's. i throw down another Chalice at 4 to stop any dread return surprises and the game ends with my opponent's library empty.

Round 3 - Liam Prasad with Jace Control 2-0
I got liam into vintage and have played each other heaps, so we both have a fair idea on the others list. He starts the game with 6 mana by turn 2 but no gas to cast. I play lodestone and beat him down whilst playing some lock pieces, but ultimately his deck provided the resources but nothing to do with them.

Game 2 sees my opponenet frustrated at Crucible and sphere whilst a Golem starts to beat down. The game ends with him not doing much other than cast V.Key and DT.

Round 4 -  Ezekiel Guilfoyle with Dredge 2-1
Game one is a blow out with me keeping a good hand for against a control deck and him making heaps of zombies and dread returning Zealot.

Game 2 has him mulligan to 1. I throw down a Tormod, welder. Followed up with a CoTV @1 and an ensnaring bridge. Lodestone Golem joins the team and wraps up the game.

Game 3 sees me hiding under a bridge and poping Relic's & Tormod's after wasting Bazaars. He has 7 zombies & 4 Rainbow lands to my 2 dudes and CoTV @1. he Echoing truths my Bridge in my end step costing 4 due to sphere effects, but doesn't have enough zombies in play to kill me or mana to be able to cast DreadReturn due to Undiscovered paradises and trinisphere. So he he draws his last card and scoops.

Round 5 - ID with Isaac Egan

Round 6 - Daniel Unwin with Jace Control 0-2
I didn't do much in this round at all. My oppenent started both games with turn 1 Confidant and was able to get a Jace on the board. My deck just didn't want to supply the necessary tools.

Ended up 6th at the end of the Swiss and hassle Isaac to start our final match ASAP and avoid the 30min break as I'm keen to leave and go drinking with friends at a BBQ that I ditched for the tourny. Yet in fear of what they are gonna make me drink to catch up, seeing as they started drinking at 2pm.

Isaac Egan with Jace Control 2-1
Don't remember much of this round but in the final game I was trying to bait his counters and removal so i could play a Golem. I had CoTV @ 2 & 3 shutting down most of his removal and win conditions, seeing the Golem get there as he kept him from casting Jace due to only having 4 lands.

Kenneth Cheong with Oath 2-0
Its a charmed life to be on the play knowing your opponents deck and dropping a CoTV @2. I beat down with a golem and have multiple lock pieces comprising of smokey, wires, etc.

Game 2 isn't much nicer with 1st turn trinisphere from me. I keep him tangled with 2 wires and have a garadon suspended and try to get a Golem before he can do anything. He Claims my golem in upkeep, but I sac down for the gargadon and smash face twice to win the game.

Daniel Unwin with Jace control 2-1

We briefly discuss a prize split, as I already have a LoA & Pearl. But after some abuse from bystanders to stop being pussy's and play it out. So we do just that, as I would have been happy walking away with either card anyways. So we shuffle up and I start drinking my second beer.

I won game 1 with my usual beat down and lockout strategy. Game 2 sees me mulligan to 5 and get beat down by an early tinkered Sphinx without me doing anything relevant.

Game 3 is super intense with me feeling confidant as I have a Golem thats smashed him 3 times, dropping his life total to 2. But he drops a Clique in my end step, untaps and slams down a jace to bounce my Golem. Things aren't looking to good now with myself now on a low 8 life due to Mana Vault and Ancient Tomb usage. I untap with 2 cards in hand, knowing i have 3 barbiarn rings and 2 trikes in the deck. Draw and activate my Bazaar finding Trike!!!!! I slam'd it down and my opponent offers his hand and I start cheering and screaming!!!!!!

Huge thanks is owed to all the people who put in a massive amount of time and effort to make this tourny the success it was. I had an awesome day. So I eventually made it to my BBQ at 10:20pm and discovered some people were still kicking on.
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2010, 01:00:11 am »

Wow, a Vintage tournament in the land down under! Thanks to all for the reports. Please, post your events in TMD more often. I would love to come out to one of these!
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2010, 05:44:28 am »

It'd be great to get some international travellers to future events.  We'll be making this an annual thing, and I'll post details once we've got next year's organised.

There were about 20 people from interstate playing in the event, and considering the distances between major cities in Australia, that's basically equivalent to international travel for people in Europe etc.   Wink

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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2011, 03:19:59 am »

(Sorry for the dredge, but I can't post event announcements yet.)

We've got another big sanctioned Vintage event coming up soon near Melbourne, Australia.

Vintage Masters - Good Games Dandenong
Saturday 22nd October
AU$40 entry
Prizes include 2 Moxen (tba), among others

There'll also be a Legacy tourney on the Sunday after, and a Highlander tourney on the Friday night before.  Big Eternal weekend.  Smile
More details here.
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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2011, 10:30:34 am »

Thanks.

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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2011, 01:10:36 pm »

I think the lack of Gush is more a reflection of the slow speed of adaptation here.  I would expect more if we had another tourney like this in the near future.

In 12 Mishra's Workshop decks (excluding Cerebral Assassin and the Mono-Blue Control deck with a Workshop in the sideboard) there were:

48 Lodestone Golem (maximum)
44 Sphere of Resistance
40 Tangle Wire
36 Chalice of the Void
36 Crucible of Worlds
33 Thorn of Amethyst
31 Goblin Welder
27 Ancient Tomb
23 Duplicant
22 Smokestack
19 Greater Gargadon
17 Razormane Masticore
16 Bazaar of Baghdad
13 Karn, Silver Golem
13 Triskelion
13 Barbarian Ring
10 sideboard Null Rod
2 maindeck Null Rod (me)


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These results are very interesting, and I believe you are correct with assuming a slow speed of adaptation for the format in your area.  In the Northeast part of the US we haven't seen numbers like these for most of the cards on the list in a long time.
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