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Tha Gunslinga
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« on: May 24, 2013, 07:27:00 am »

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-Beta-Mox-JET-MTG-NM-RARE-GORGEOUS-/290905768207?pt=Trading_Card_Games_US&hash=item43bb55c10f

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-Beta-Mox-PEARL-MTG-NM-RARE-GORGEOUS-/290905771202?pt=Trading_Card_Games_US&hash=item43bb55ccc2

Dark Beta.  Watch out.
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2013, 07:37:10 am »

What's the tell on this? I'm not looking for Beta, but I am looking for UL. I wouldn't have seen anything different about these from the photos.
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2013, 07:40:56 am »

Is there a compendium or FAQ somewhere about the different types of fake, or otherwise not authentic WotC Magic cards?

I can generally tell when I have cards in my hand, but photos can be taken in any light or angle to reduce this, so what are the best ways to spot different types of counterfeit cards?
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2013, 08:21:48 am »

That same seller had three Beta Swords to Plowshares listed later last week, as well. Glad I didn't bite on them. (Not that they were necessarily fake, but after seeing this, I'd rather not take my chances.)
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2013, 09:39:59 am »

These are fairly obvious in person next to a real Beta card, but much more difficult to ID in auction photos.  Basically, they just look off.  The font is more spindly than a normal Beta card, the backs are a little off, it's just a general "something about this is not right."

The Plows look real, and most of the rest of his stuff looks real, but those two P9 are definitely fake, and I think he has a few others up as well.
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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2013, 08:44:47 am »

I looked at his collection in person and warned him several were definitely fake.  He arrogantly told me I was wrong.  He tried to tell me there are several alpha/beta variations. They seemed to pass the light test.  How is this possible?
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2013, 03:15:28 pm »

Just a follow-up FYI on additional discussion

I looked at his collection in person and warned him several were definitely fake.  He arrogantly told me I was wrong.  He tried to tell me there are several alpha/beta variations. They seemed to pass the light test.  How is this possible?

Per the discussion on this here: http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/025959.html

"they will pass the tests, because they were printed at carta mundi, after hours, on actual card stock right? but they're not part of the wotc commissioned run.. these'll pass all those card stock etc tests, but they're blurry on sight, and held next to a real beta card. good luck researching more on this, there's only a handful of people in the country that are familiar/knowledgeable on it, and two of us have already posted here. none of the people you've referenced are amongst those I'd consider to be in that group." - coolio

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"there isnt a good way [to test them], you just have to know it when you see it. these are printed on authentic card stock, at the actual print facility wotc used at the time. the only issues are:
1) they're darker than normal
2) they we're printed illegally

beyond that, they are real cards and will pass all the tests real cards pass. however, they were never supposed to get printed in the first place." - Thor

Seller seemed to accept these facts and removed his ebay auctions.
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