Mono Black Suicide

[shade13]

Mono Black Suicide is one of the few decks that has been a net deck that no sever hate was ever deveoped for so has been around forever this is my version plz give tips at wut you feel would improve it

CREATURES:

4 nantuko shade
4 phyrexian negator
4 hypnotic specter (disruption)

DISRUPTION:

4 sinkhole
4 hymn to tourach
4 duress
4 chalice of the void
1 mind twist (i win)

TUTORERS:

1 demonic tutor
1 vampiric tutor
1 demonic consultation

I WIN:

1 necropotence
1 yawgmoth's will

MANA:

4 dark ritual
1 black lotus
1 mox jet
1 sol ring
1 stripmine (disruption)
4 wasteland (disruption)
14 swamp

SIDE BOARD:

4 masticore
4 withered wretch
4 cabal thearpy
3 null rod

BY: SHADE13

[Ridiculous Hat]

I have some issues with this build but I think the concept always has and always will be sound-- fast beats and disruption always seem to work.

First, I think that you don't need the Powder Kegs-- what threats are a problem that you need to wrath away?  You should probably be the aggro deck so don't waste your time on disruption.  I would cut the Echoes and Twist for similar reasons, though those are also too expensive to be that good.

Second, I think you may want more threats-- maybe some Dauthi Slayers due to the emergence of green out there.  You don't want blockers to be a problem.  I would also recommend Withered Wretch against Dragon and control-- you don't need Blessing if you have that guy.  You could also run faster creatures such as Sarcomancy and Carnophage, but I wouldn't do that if your metagame is aggro-heavy.  If you have a lot of control, though, go nuts.

I'm not sure if the Sinkholes should stay or become Unmasks-- you already have 5 strips against Bazaars and hand disruption is quite good when you have that much.

I would have 3 or 4 Perishes in your sideboard to deal with green.  The deck is quite popular and stuff like Troll Ascetic could be quite problematic.

Other than that, as I said, the deck is straightforward and works.  Give it a go.

[Roxas]

First of all, Mind Twist and Haunting Echoes are not "I win" cards.  Both are far too expensive.  I'd cut them for a couple swamps, since 14 is a bit light.  Depending on your metagame, Unearth and Cabal Therapy might be other alternatives.

Also, while this might depend on your metagame, I'm sure you can do better than Powder Keg.  Chalice of the Void or Null Rod will be better in almost every situation.

About your sideboard:  Defense Grid is crap; change it to four Withered Wretch.  Also, since you're going to be running either four Chalice or Null Rod in the maindeck, increase the SB count of the other to four.

EDIT: Heh, the guy above must've posted while I was typing.  While he made some similar points, I don't agree with needing more threats or cutting Sinkhole.  Twelve creatures are more than enough; any one of them will often be enough to win the game after disruption.  5 Strips alone are not quite enough to totally mana screw the opponent; Sinkhole can often finish the job (as well as destroy the basic lands people like to get with fetchlands).

EDIT2:  By the way: next time, please refrain from opening a new topic when there is one already open about the same deck.  It really gets annoying after a while, and is little more than a waste of space and bandwidth.

[The Atog Lord]

One card which you may wish to consider for your maindeck, especially if you play in a powered metagame, is Withered Wretch. As a 2/2 body for BB, he is unimpressive but not terrible. However, his ability can dramatically affect the game against many of the top decks right now.
Against Keeper, he can dismantle a game-ending Yawgmoth's Will.
Against TnT, he stops their Welders and also stops Survival tricks with Wonder and Anger and Squee.
He also makes Stompy's Squees less effective.
Against Dragon, well, it stops their deck from working.
Against Slaver (any flavor) it makes it very difficult to combo out.
The obvious card to remove is the Echoes. It is very expensive, especially for a card that does not impact either board or hand, and Wretch just does something similar more efficiently. I would also consider whether you need all four of the kegs. Further, Sinkhole can be a liability at this point, in the presence of so many misdirections.

[Danzig]

4 Hypnotic Specter
I would trim it to 3. He does run slow sometimes but I just can't find a
reason to completely drop him.
4 Sinkhole
If you get your Hymns working fast enough you really don't need these.
It sucks drawing them late game. Wasteland and Strip Min seem to work
fine along with Hymns that can hit land.
4 Powder Keg
You can drop these and run at least 2 Null Rod Maindeck. Null Rod
checks most of what you want to sweep away.
1 Mind Twist
Later in the game you'd rather spend your mana on Shade.
1 Haunting Echoes
Doesn't seem to fit in the deck. You want to focus on hand disruption
and quick beats.
4 Masticore
If you come across alot of aggro he works but can eat up alot of
your sources. I would trim it to 3.
2 Defense Grid
Doesn't seem to fit in the deck. Remember it can hurt your Dark
Rituals on their turn when you need to pump Shade or if you are going to
play Diabolic Edict.
2 Chalice of the Void
I would up this to 3 for sligh, stompy and of course anything that
runs 0 cc spells.
2 Withered Wretch
I'd run 3 Maindeck. Reasons above are clear. He will help you more
than Gaea's Blessing. He swings for 2, blocks, and clears graveyards.
Best $1.80 I ever spent!
2 Diabolic Edict
If you have room run 3 sideboard. Dragons and non targetables suck.
1 Gaea's Blessing
Doesn't seem to fit in the deck. Withered Wretch will solve the
problem of Dragon most of the time.

[blankpagez]

I have a weird suggestion. How about taking the Mind Twist and Haunting Echoes for 2 Nether Void's ?? Would this totally change the deck and the way it works ??

14 swamps look pretty good to me. It's just me anyways.