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Author Topic: WW/u - Taking a closer look  (Read 11861 times)
LimDul
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« Reply #60 on: January 13, 2003, 07:00:45 pm »

I have played WWr in tourneys twice: Once in a regional event with only few people attending - it did fare quite well there (I became 2nd) -  the other time was in Dülmen last summer, where I only finished 47th. Just because I love WW, I haven't given up work on it yet, but I think one thing that should be considered, and this counts for the WWu Version aswell, is that WW does actually have problems with beating Black!
The removal spells Black (wether this is Sui or Void or whatever) uses do not target any longer as they did in the old days, so they can easily get rid off your Knights, which will not any longer be able to block that Shade/Reaver/Juzam/etc. every turn and will then simply run you over. I think that WWr has  lots of options to beat Keeper; WWu has ,after boarding, quite good chances vs controlish decks, too. But Black is to my mind a big problem. Perhaps the Believers might solve this...I'm not certain about that yet....

I guess that I might be mistaken in some points, so please correct me concerning those....
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TracerBullet
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« Reply #61 on: January 13, 2003, 10:48:09 pm »

True Believer will definately be a help against Mono-B...But I still don't see why you should be losing.  There's nothing in a Mono-B deck that's really problematic, as they only run a paltry 12 creatures compared to the 20 or so you should be running.  You run better removal, can have Land Tax (which is just amazing against Void and Pox), and also get Crusade, which is always a house against Mono-B.  I've played the matchup from the side of the Suicide player and as a Pox player, and I can tell you it's very difficult before board.  This matchup is very dependent upon the WW/u build.
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Woolly Mammoth
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« Reply #62 on: January 15, 2003, 12:13:24 am »

I don't have much time right now, I'll post again tomorrow. A few quick comments though.

I have the same problem with True Believer that I do with Dwarven Miner - only good against deck X. I find Meddling Mages to be better than either of these alternatives because they are good against deck X and Y (Academy and TnT). The Mages are also decent against deck A, B, and C, whereas the Believers and Miners aren't. Overall, the Mages are better more often, while the Miners and Believers are more better in just one matchup. I'm sleepy, so that might not make much sense.  

I haven't had much of a problem with black. Sometimes they Hymn and Sinkhole me too soon and they mess me up. If they don't disrupt me significantly, they are in trouble. StP and Psionic Blast mess up all the creatures they play, and I have 8 pro black blockers if need be. Meddling Mage can help a lot here, often naming Edict or Masticore. Basically, they only play 12 creatures. 4 StP, 4 Psionic Blast, and 8 pro black creatures tend to stop them (although Hyppies hurt). Suicide and Void decks aren't the best matchup, but I find them to be in my favor, 55-60% or so. If they run lots of Dystopia it's worse, but I don't see it that often.
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