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Author Topic: Ghey Phish Dot Dec (budget gay fish)The Ghey Phish4 Rootw...  (Read 8031 times)
GerryMander
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« on: December 13, 2003, 09:34:45 pm »

Ghey Phish Dot Dec (budget gay fish)

The Ghey Phish
4 Rootwater Thief--------------The bestest fish
4 Manta Riders-----------------Superior to Merfolk O.T.P.T!  not many can say dat!
4 Lord of Atlantis---------------Makes da fish all good and stuff
4 Cloud of Faeries--------------the ghey

All That Jazz
4 Force of Will------------------Cestest counter spell
4 Stifle--------------------------Counters what counters cant counter...?
2 Misdirection------------------Land-D on who?  On you?
4 Standstill----------------------I can wait
4 Curiosity----------------------Drawin' power!
3 Null Rod----------------------Suck on it, Mox and Lotus
2 Psionic Blast------------------Best blue creature removal (not saying much)

Man-Lands and Is-lands
1 Strip Mine--------------------Destroy a land.  Easy.
4 Faerie Conclave--------------the ghey man-land
4 Mishra's Factory--------------Classic cheap man-land
12 Island------------------------Best Card In Magic
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TylerS
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2003, 02:05:07 am »

Oh shit!

/me netdecks Mountain_Goat.dec
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rkam
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2003, 02:26:13 am »

LOL

This was a funny post.

I especially liked

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3 Null Rod----------------------Suck on it, Mox and Lotus
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Quote 4 Cloud of Faeries--------------the ghey
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GerryMander
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2003, 10:04:09 am »

uhhh.... is that.... good?
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Dr. Sylvan
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2003, 10:33:22 am »

Why no Wastelands? It's not like they're bank-breaking, and they are awesome. I would lose -1 Stifle, -1 Faerie Conclave, -1 Island for +3 Wasteland. That leaves fourteen blue sources in a deck that doesn't play Mana Drain, which sounds about right to me.
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GerryMander
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2003, 11:40:17 am »

There are no wastelands becuz I wholeheartedly believe in the topic of taking out Wastelands for Stifle.

EDIT:  however, i could take out a stifle and an island for 2...\n\n

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g0dzillA
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2003, 04:26:31 pm »

Quote from: GerryMander+Dec. 14 2003,11:40
Quote (GerryMander @ Dec. 14 2003,11:40)There are no wastelands becuz I wholeheartedly believe in the topic of taking out Wastelands for Stifle.
I heartily endorse running 4 of each.
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SummenSaugen
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2003, 07:44:43 pm »

Overkill-tastic.

Though, there is absolutely no reason to not be running all five strips.  Stifle should be an afterthought (though one that should be present, but more like a 2-of)
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GerryMander
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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2003, 03:17:08 pm »

ok.  2 stifles and an island fer 3 wastelands!

any other changes or are we good to go?
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Dr. Sylvan
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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2003, 03:31:02 pm »

My experience with UR-Fish makes me happy I don't run 4 CIP-tapped lands. Are the Conclaves that outstanding that you want all four?
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GerryMander
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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2003, 03:58:43 pm »

it's ok i supose.... what would i run in their place if i did take them out?

i am too cheap to by duals, so if i did go U/r, i would hafta run Shivan Reefs...
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Crater Hellion
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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2003, 04:03:58 pm »

UR isn't worth it with reefs because you can't fetch them  
8 man-lands are probably too many- why not cut 2 conclaves for a waste and an island
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GerryMander
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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2003, 04:18:57 pm »

Ok, I made a lil bit o' changes.  Here is the current decklist.


Ghey Phish v1.0000002

the Ghey Phish
4 Rootwater Thief
4 Manta Riders
4 Lord of Atlantis
4 Cloud of Faeries <----------Still the ghey

the Jazz
4 Force of Will
4 Standstill
4 Curiosity
3 Stifle <---------------I sure do hope that 3 cut it!
3 Null Rod
2 Misdirection
2 Psionic Blast

the Man-Lands/Is-Lands
11 Island
4 Mishra's Factory
4 Wasteland <-------------------Apparently, this is good!
2 Faerie Conclave <------------Taking the ghey outta Man-Lands...
1 Strip Mine
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Mox Monkey
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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2003, 11:23:00 pm »

Do not drop the conclave count below 4, they are neessesary for several reasons:
1. They are an added threat that cannot be countered
2. they are a creature that does not pop a standstill, ensuring that your opponant will HAVE to pop it.
3. at least one or two of your man-lands will get destroyed by strips and wastelands and dropping your count will greatly decrease your threat density (you cant always count on stifle to save them).
4. what the hell else are you doing turn 1 anyway? casting a manta rider?
5. they have evasion and make your clock a bit faster than it would otherwise be. fish already has a slow clock and you dont really want to make it slower.
6. against other decks running factories, these will give you an advantage
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GerryMander
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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2003, 10:01:41 am »

you make a very persuasive arguement.  i will add 2 conclaves at the cost of 2 wastelands.
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Crater Hellion
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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2003, 10:13:04 am »

Instead of merely listening to what everyone says and changing your list every post, why don't you test for yourself and find out on your own that you don't want 4 conclaves?
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Falc
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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2003, 03:21:29 pm »

I have to agree that two Conclaves and four Wasteland are the way to go.  That last list you posted looked pretty "ghey" to me.  I'd try that out for a while before you make any more changes.

- Falc
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IllusionX
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« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2003, 04:36:23 pm »

For MonoU Fish, try something like this

// Creatures: 16
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4 Cloud of Faeries
4 Lord of Atlantis
4 Manta Riders
4 Rootwater Thief

// Spells: 21
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4 Curiosity
4 Force of Will
3 Misdirection
3 Null Rod
4 Standstill
3 Stifle

// Lands: 23
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4 Faerie Conclave
10 Island
4 Mishra's Factory
1 Strip Mine
4 Wasteland

In all my testing and tournys with Fish, I've found 23-24 mana sources to work the best.

There is no reason why you shouldn't be running all 8 manlands and 5 strips, it is very doable in MonoU Fish.
Even in my powered MonoU Fish, I run the full compliment of strips.

Or, depending on your metagame, replace one to two of the Misdirections with Psionic Blast or the last Null Rod if need be.
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