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Author Topic: U/w/r Chronic up for critique  (Read 2037 times)
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« on: January 29, 2004, 08:47:19 pm »

Ever since I got my 4 Isochrons I have wanted to play a Chronic type deck. I figured since there is no thread in this forum started yet I'll start it myself. Here's the list i came up with

Control:
4 FoW
4 Drain
3 Fire/ice
3 StP

Draw/Tool:
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral
1 Mystical (Good to find a StP to imprint)
2 Cunning Wish (This deck almost begs for this card)
4 Accumulated Knowledge
3 Brainstorm

Win:
2 Decree of Justice
3 Isochron Scepter (Only because drawing 2 early tends to suck)

Mana:
4 Volcanic Island
4 Tundra
1 Lotus
1 Sapphire
1 Ruby
1 Pearl
4 Flooded Strand
3 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
5 Island
1 Mountain
1 Plains
1 Sol Ring
1 LoA

I need this deck ready to rock for saturday.

The metagame is:
50% Aggro
33.3% Control
16.6% Other (Prison, Combo, Jank, etc.)

The aggro I expect are: Mask, FeB, Sligh, and Sui
The control will be: GAT, Combo Keeper, and Hulk
The combo/prison will be: Stax and Dragon

The SB I came up with was

4 REB
1 Dismantling Blow
1 Disenchant
2 Rack and Ruin
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Boomerang
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Fire/Ice
3 Stifle

Notice it is completely wishable, a good thing.

Basically I want you guys to help decide whats the keep and whats the kick.
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2004, 09:21:57 pm »

I'd ditch acc knowledges for a 4th brainstorm, 2 impulse and a merchant scroll, but that's just my opinion.  You might want a stroke of genius if you are running LoA, if that's good for this deck to begin with.  Also look at Teferi's Response, you may like that.  I'd also go for 4 wastelands, maybe losing a plains since you can wasteland or StP early, either way and it's good vs most decks.
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2004, 09:31:45 pm »

Try another cunning wish, and maybe 1 Intuition, specially for the AK.

Abeyance or orim´s chant in SB would be great if your deck is focus on scepter.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2004, 09:42:22 pm »

Drawing to many Scepters can suck, but I would think in a deck based around there power 4 would be better. Also, looks like a bit to much mana. Speaking of mana, if your gonna run Wastelands, you might as well go for 4, no reason to go half way. I hear AK plus intuition is good to  Wink

I think you should try to go as low as 25 mana and then work up from there, your only running three colors and cheap spells so it shouldn't be to bad. 25 is low, but it's useally better to try to go with an extreme and work from there.
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2004, 11:11:46 pm »

I dont think that intuition is needed, AK with nothing in yard is still good on scepter, once you have 1 or more AKs in yard then its great, but intuition is just really clunky.
I would add one more wish, its just so good with scepter.
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2004, 11:12:46 pm »

Kerz and I discussed that 4 color with black could be a lot better. In his gauntlet thread in the normal forums, located here: http://www.themanadrain.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=186697&sid=c05faaf72f1ecb7f3ce940214fe436fd#186697 he shows a decklist that I eventually agreed on having better matchups and being more powerful. I think U/b/w/r is the way to go. Any other suggestions?
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2004, 11:18:51 pm »

How is Intuition clunky? Well the best way I can explain it for this deck is an in game Cunning Wish. It may be a bit dangerous to use up a bunch of his spells, but you have to play smart and get them on the scepter. I don't know, seemed like a good idea to me. Just saw Echo's post now. I agree, reaching further into the colors would give access to more powerful cards. If you were to go that way though then Intuiton would be the wrong choice.
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2004, 11:36:58 pm »

Exactly. Why run Intuition when you can run Yawg Will and DT for virtually no added nonbasic disruption. Kerz told me its better to just find a way to deal with the thing thats causing the disruption, not try to accomodate it (the basic lands)
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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2004, 07:07:11 am »

Well.. thats just my own opinion. But yeah- 4 color is superior in every way. The deck loses a lot of steam without the DT/Will/Twist brokenness. It is essential to any 4 color control, imo. Echo, you might want to put up the new 4 color list we worked on.
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