[Report] **A dice roll away from T8 in Johnston RI**

[Matrix]

- This tournament report will not include my decklist, as I am not an advocate for netdecking (which I will get to later). It will not include any props, slops or bowls of Corn Pops. It will not include stories of how fast food was a factor during the tourney (although it was), or how a mob of gathering card players took their business to a diner afterwards, as it was a Sunday and things were getting late. Aaron Kerzner needed to get home ASAP as mommy was getting worried that Matrix was going to beat a 13 and T8    . This of course did not happen, but the story was just shy of legendary.

I of course played a control deck. It's not keeper because it runs duress and a Wrath of God. It ran mage but I wouldn’t call it EBA because it runs mis-d, future sight, and decree. I will call this "Matrix.dec" or "Matrix's Version of Keeper" for short.   Most players will say "that guy is playing a bad deck because he uses Wrath of God." To that I just smile and think of the countless times wrath has saved me from board triple threats in tourney play, the time it killed 8 lethal goblins or the time it killed 2 swarms a verdant and 2 verdant tokens. Wrath is God!
Anyhow onto the juicy tidbits of this tournament experience. I’ll start with Saturday night when I call up Kerz to see how Team RI is going to muster up some tech for a Sunday win. Kerz answers and gives me the shun telling me be here by 11:30 or we're leaving without you. I try to ask who is going with us and he says James will be driving and Adam is going and that both he and Adam will play hulk. Already I sense something fishy about this one, as I doubt Adam would do that. I drink a lot, get no sleep and wake up feeling like my mind had been erased.  :lol:  

I show up at the Kerzner residence greeted by the lovely Mrs. Kerzner baking some cookies in the oven. I tell her I have no time to stay and eat her warm delicious cookies as I have a tournament to go and win    . She wishes me luck and tells me Aaron is downstairs. I proceed in and Aaron Kerzner is standing up in front of his computer (he looks confused). No one else is there and things are getting late so we forget about James and I take Kerz to Johnston.

We arrive and I tell Kerzner to go enter me in the tourney as I have chicken to eat in the car before registration (I know I said I wouldn’t go there... what can ya do). Ben Kowal and Eastman arrive as I'm sitting In my car enjoying American luxuries and I "wud up" them. Kowall comes over and I give him some contributions on the chicken front. I smoke a cig with Slim and talk about the upcoming Northeast Championships (Slim is a cool guy, for some reason he decided not to play today but we got enough peeps anyways). I ditch the cig and proceed inside and fill out the list trying to make it as illegible as possible so the secrets of the Matrix can be preserved.


Round 1 vs. random n00b netdecker playing madness

Game 1: Squees don't get returned bazaars forget to tap, and he wins anyways.
 
Game 2: in comes the removal out go the mages    
we play for a long time, I answer his threats until I have 6 life and a ton of mana, I get Yawg will but no juice in the yard. I cast and think about the Fire/ Ice in my hand, and how it could mean another card, but I’m holding nothing to deal with anything and a Rootwalla can be lethal if not answered
I Will I Ice the next turn and a roaring wurm gets me. At this point I look at my next card and it was in fact a DT, which meant gang of Angels to help the fight. Oh well mistakes happen unfortunately if netdecking an aggressive deck a bad player can get around his mistakes and not deserve to. "The Dominia We've Created" by Matrix.

0-1-0
0-2-0


Round 2 Vs. Dave from YMG playing madness
Game 1: He plays quick flying creatures I Mathematically shouldn't be able to answer, and don't.

Game 2: He loses some land to my wastes, gets a madness creature stifled and ends up with a sol ring volc and arrogant worm on the table with 0 cards in hand to my 5. Normally this would be a wonderful situation, however a hand of 4 lands and a Yawgwill with no goods in the yard = good game.

0-2-0 *sloppy*
0-4-0*disgusting*

-- I decide that chances are slim. But I'm going to keep on keeping on.

Round 3 Vs. Sligh

Game 1: I get Loa, strip a mountain, dis one of his moxes to the grave and fend off until I reach Yawgmoth's Win

Game 2: I get Loa Strip and a mage names ball lightning when all he holds is 2 ball lightning he scoops I think I was at 10

1-2-0
2-4-0

Round 4 I get the bye.

I whopped the byes A$$ with a Yawgmoth’s win

2-2-0
something

Round 5 White Weenie

Game 1: I lose to savannah lions (I was light on removal today and mage is most certainly coming out)

Game 2: I plow things until I reach a point where God gives me the ability to see the future
 
Game 3: see game 2 future sight rocks  


Round 6 TJ with U/R still

Game 1: after sitting at the table for 10 minutes TJ emerges to whop my A$$

Game 2: I break 3 standstills one after another, the 3rd one gets broken when he activates 2 conclaves and I diabolic edict him he draws 3 off brokenness and mis-d's back to me I then cast fire and him not answering it means its time to ancestral recall and win
 
Game 3: I get a recall off and am in total control when the judge comes over to us and calls time. We realize that neither of us can go lethal in time and I show him my hand and ask him to scoop as the judge laughs it up he does not seem to want to scoop so we decide to roll a dice 3 out of 5 times. I don't know why the judge didn’t give me the win, nor do I know why people think they belong in the T8 because we we're supposed to draw:

#1: by DCI rules I got the win due to his showing up late

#2: if one must rely on 2 other contenders drawing one probably didn’t deserve to T8 anyway.

Dice Roll
Round 1 TJ rolls a 10 and I roll a 6
Round 2 TJ rolls a 3 and I roll a 14
Round 3 TJ rolls a 10 and I roll a 17
Round 4 TJ rolls an 18 and I roll a 10
Round 5 TJ rolls a 13 and I roll a 4

Later on I thought about the 4 and how it was so gross and unlucky I said to myself this wasn’t my lucky day, but if that 4 was a 14 who knows what could have or would have happened. And that is what I said to myself when I decided to play on after being 0-2-0. I got to raise a few eyebrows and make Kerzner.kid feel like I had screwed him out of T8. All in all this was a crazy day. The moral of this story is never give up, you may get lucky, and never rely on others to lose to get into T8, just win and earn the 8th seed :lol:.   Considering I got the bye I figured this wasn't really mine anyways so I was cool with a dice roll to determine an 8 seed TJ wanted in badly and so did I but 2 losses in a row to madness is 2 losses too many T8 was really not meant to love me on Sunday. It was all good though. I drop off Kerz in time for mommy to tuck him in and I get home in time for supper. I later make Tweakages to my deck accordingly and talk to muh wumz on the phizzle followed by passing out. This tourney was cool and I'll most definitely be there again next time.

                                =  \\Rock On//  =    Matrix

[Smash]

2 points

1) I think you could learn a lot from netdeck and not making your uberdeck decks with wog.....

2) I hope it wasn't sanctioned. It is against the floor rules to determine a match by dice rolls. Even if it was unsanctioned, they should follow the floor rules, but whatever...

[Matrix]

[/quote]1) I think you could learn a lot from netdeck and not making your uberdeck decks with wog.....
I think Ill stick with uberdecks that run wog    I T8 in the toughest meta in the world probably and um who are you?  Also  I think you could learn alot from playing more magic cards and not reading about other people playing them and trying to copy them

2) I hope it wasn't sanctioned. It is against the floor rules to determine a match by dice rolls. Even if it was unsanctioned, they should follow the floor rules, but whatever...
As I tired to make clear before If this were in fact a DCI sanctioned event I would have gotten a match win due to my opponent showing up 10 minutes late  ...  please dont try to flame me on my post  this is my first post and you may refer to my deck as Matrix.dec and wonder whats in it,  not uberdeck with wog  and netdeck it    

[EchoBoy]

Smash you never have anything positive to say,

All in all it sounds like you had fun even thought you lost to madness twice in a row with your uber wog tech, pff. I know u like to be a rebel but some things have to be done the way they are done, and WoG staying out of T1 decklists is one of those things. Better luck next time, and besides you do damn good down in the RI tournies no need to be disappointed over a small loss such as this.

[Matrix]

okok  for the record the Wrath is in the board, (and for all who dont know it is Beta   ) and when i say antinetdeck I mean yall can do what yall want and I will read it, and study it, and maybe even play it on appr, but I am a Keeper player 4L, and I like my build, and in turn my build likes me and only me  

[Smash]

If it was humility, you might have owned madness better


I have positive things to say... only when people deserve it. I ain't a charity worker.

[Matrix]

Im sorry smash but I disagree, and I will tell you why my Wrath is not a Humility.  I have played Humility board and when going up against control slaver find they like to use Annul off the board  this hurts the humility team just a bit, but wrath stays solid and kills annoying pentavites and the welders who love them.    Also I think the wrath is sweeter vrs tnt and I think the wrath is sweeter vrs madness, because they hit the life hard and fast.  I do think Humility is good vrs madness but I'd rather have a Wrath, however if this were dragon madness I had been playing against the first 2 rounds I would rather have had a Humility to stop an infinite mana loop from going down but in any case,  the Wrath never came up.. and I pulled Humility last week after Rayamfishman burned my Humility with an Annul in NJ

[gzeiger]

I don't mean to be rude here, but a little grammar would be much appreciated in places. I'll suffer through it for the Europeans because I don't write their languages so well either, but you're apparently a native-English speaker, and this post just plain doesn't make any sense in places. I have only the vaguest idea of what's going on in the whole last paragraph of your introduction.

On top of that the blatant admission of cheating is a bit of a turn-off. Your assertion that the guy you screwed out of top 8 with your die-rolling antics "didn't deserve" to make it is nonsensical. Clearly the winner of the die roll didn't deserve to make it; the other guy has a clear match win compared to your draw.

And you never did get to the netdecking thing, unless you mean only to point out that a well-constructed deck has an advantage over a home-grown version that can sometimes make the matchup forgiving of play error. I'm not sure where you're going with that.

[Tautochrone]

Quote: "#1 by DCI rules I got the win due to his showing up late"

   Then why didn't you take the win, even if it wasn't sanctioned you were still playing by DCI rules right? You didn't have to resort to rolling dice *Cheeetorz*.

Quote: "#2 if one must rely on 2 other contenders drawing one probably didnt deserve to T8 anyway."

   Well you and TJ certainly didn't deserve to go to Top 8. If you had own the die roll then you would've made T8 by cheating *Cheeetorz*. And holy crap TJ... you cheated through at LEAST 1/3 of the entire tournament. (Round 6 die rolling, earlier getting smacked in the face 0-2 by Sui-Black then bribing with 2 Tundras for the 2-0 win).

   And what was this with the Tourney Judge guy watching you two roll for the win? What an ass....I hate Rhode Island tourneys. Go Hadley and Auburn! Much better tourneys.

To sum this ranting up (To TJ and Matrix)
          Have a little more faith in your deck and stop relying on bribes and die rolls to make it to T8 for you. Obviously if you have to cheat your way to T8 then your deck sucks, you suck, and your whole idea of what it means to T8 in a tournament sucks and maybe you should use the time you spend telling everyone, "Look at me! I'm cool because I placed higher than most of you because I CHEAT!" to fix your deck so next time you can tell us how you made it to T8 WITHOUT cheating.

[Matrix]

I have only the vaguest idea of what's going on in the whole last paragraph of your introduction.

ok 2 I's aren't capped and a comma is missing.  The rest of the last paragraph looks pretty straight forward.  I eat KFC in my car, followed by smoking and then entering the building to register my deck.  Im sorry if you can't comprehend my description of these events, I tried my best.  

Your assertion that the guy you screwed out of top 8 with your die-rolling antics "didn't deserve" to make it is nonsensical.

I believe the clear assertion is that the only one who was screwed out of T8 was myself due to rules not being followed at this tourney, however the dice roll had nothing to do with any of the other contenders because with all illegal activity aside and the DCI rules being followed my opponent showed up late and the judge was well aware of this but would not consider it.

And you never did get to the netdecking thing, unless you mean only to point out that a well-constructed deck has an advantage over a home-grown version that can sometimes make the matchup forgiving of play error. I'm not sure where you're going with that.

No sir that is not what I meant, in fact I find myself usually winning against netdecks not piloted by their creators more often then not.  My point was madness netdecked decks (because they're agressive) can still be more forgiving to mistakes then a mistake with Keeper or control.  Five times in my game 1, a squee was not returned,  and at least twice a Bazzar of Baghdad did not tap.  Usually 1 mistake with a deck that requires strenious though is enough to make the game go sour.  For example a Long deck, a TPS deck, a Keeper deck.  My other point was that I don't want to see you playing my deck even if I win tournaments with it because this is not New Mexico and you are not Bill Gates.

I will make one other point.  This post was not inteneded as a place for you to come and flame on my English skills call me a cheater and tell me my deck sucks.  If you feel this way come to Cape Cod next week,  place higher then me,  then ask for my permission to flame up my post,  until then please refrain.

Well you and TJ certainly didn't deserve to go to Top 8

Wrong...  by DCI standards I deserved the win.

Have a little more faith in your deck and stop relying on bribes and die rolls to make it to T8 for you. Obviously if you have to cheat your way to T8 then your deck sucks, you suck, and your whole idea of what it means to T8 in a tournament sucks and maybe you should use the time you spend telling everyone, "Look at me! I'm cool because I placed higher than most of you because I CHEAT!" to fix your deck so next time you can tell us how you made it to T8 WITHOUT cheating.

#1  I have all the faith in the world about my deck.
#2  Relying on a dice roll at that point seemed like my only option as the judge nor TJ would budge on giving me what was rightfully mine.
#3 my deck sucks but I was T8 bound,  what place did you come in?
#4 Please dont flame on my post,  telling me I suck my deck sucks and my idea of what it means to T8 sucks is inappropriate and I think someone is jealous

[DEA]

presented to you by your friendly neighbourhood ego buster

you are not your goddamn top 8

say it 10 times quickly

anyway, congratulations on the t8, you bring up some valid points, but there's one very niggling question that still bugs me

what about the 2 tundras?

hey, that's an idea, i'll just pack 12 duals for the 6 round swiss :lol:

[jazzykat]

I hope I play you DEA . You already burnt over $200(if your duals have blue in them and you paid an entry fee) to T8 that is a gas. You could just buy the mox for 250, oh and you still have to win 3 more times. Buying wins is economically stupid IMO. Just buy the mox instead

[Tautochrone]

Quote: "#3 my deck sucks but I was T8 bound, what place did you come in?"

I came in 19th place (3-3-0) with like 10 other people. But that doesn't matter. We were ALL TOP 8 BOUND...we just lost...yes you lost too. You didn't make T8 so you're no better than I am. Oh wait, you're worse because you roll dice to win instead of playing it out.

Quote: "I believe the clear assertion is that the only one who was screwed out of T8 was myself due to rules not being followed at this tourney"

Ya, not being followed by YOU. So you cheated and got screwed out of T8. Good I'm happy.  bye.

[Kowal]

The two tundras had nothing to do with Matrix.  Get the damn thread back on track plz tks.

[Matrix]

I dont know what else to say other then that I have tried to keep this report as civil as possible.  It seems a few folks wish to turn this into 4th grade recess.  Mods I will ask for you to please close this thread before someone throws mud and says nana,, sticks their tongue out, puts their thumbs in their ears, and wiggles their fingers about in a mocking manner.  I am extremely disappointed with how real the childish behavior is becoming on my 1st report ever!  Just because I am not posting my decklist does not mean discussion should be opened up for who's better then who, or who is or isn't a cheater.  Your opinion is appreciated if you can keep it in the form of an opinion, and not a harsh accusation accompianied by childish remarks.  There is another thread about rolling dice and accepting cards for scoops. Please either post there, go take a nap, or keep your thumb in your mouth, AND ALSO... if this was not already clear before,, PLEASE KEEP YOUR FLAMEING CHILDISH BEHAVIOR OFF OF THIS POST PLEASEEE!!!

[Kerz]

Well... a few points.

1. You didn't rightfully win the match. TJ sat down maybe 30-45 seconds after he said "begin", which isn't uncommon for everyone to do at some point in a tourney, including you and me.

2. Now that I found out about TJ not only Rolling a match win, but also BRIBING to get into the top eight (over me, but that im really just going for principle), he can suck my cock. He is obviously not good enough to win anything on his own, which he has shown before, but with a halfway decent deck and a cheating mantality, I guess he can make his way to the top eight (and then scrub out promptly). I would like to thank Adam Bowers for showing him who the FUCK was boss.

3. Matrix its all good with whatever happened, but using illegal means to bump me out of the top eight just made me kinda mad.

[jpmeyer]

My die roll's dad could beat up your die roll's dad

[Kerz]

stfu jp your dad is all metrosexual and shit my daddy is all like omgwhatupfoo then he beats you down with his trunk like arms, and hes black

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I wrote that JPMeyer Style... and I kinda liked it.

[Matrix]

1. You didn't rightfully win the match. TJ sat down maybe 30-45 seconds after he said "begin", which isn't uncommon for everyone to do at some point in a tourney, including you and me.

Again I feel I must defend myself.  Last night on AIM did I not point out to you Aaron that my opponent showed up 10 minutes late and did you not react in a matter that which could be described as surprised, saying something like "he did?!"?  Did you not then Im me back and say something to the effect of "oh yeah I remember that I was sitting right next to you!(which I can vouch for as you were) .. yea.. that was like 5 minutes I guess."  So then, at first you had no idea, then you acknowledge, then its 5, now its 30-45. Im sorry but not only was I there first hand to experience his lateness,  if I wasn't, could I really consider your perception of time as accurate?


I suppose theres not much to talk about here except the dice roll but it wasn't my intention to make this what it has become.  I just thought my version was worth hearing.

[Jacob Orlove]

The lesson here is that two wrongs don't make a right.

This thread isn't about to improve, so it's better off Closed.