[Single Card Discussion] Arcbound Ravager

[Spizzard]

Or Keeper could just StP the Ravager

This only works if there are no other artifact creatures in play.  Sacrificing Ravager to himself and moving the counters is a great way around removal.  Which is why I can see keeper having a bad matchup against this type of deck.

[Siral]

I've built a t1 affinity deck and played it in massa (4th place losing in semifinal vs winner of the tournament)

Ravager is one of the part of the engine of the deck and it's the best finisher of the deck (since it has "haste"....it comes in play eat some artifacts sac to itself and pump an active creature)

So if i would make a single card discussion i would make it about skullclamp (the best darksteel card) and how it can works in different decks

[DEA]

keeper could also balance everything away

[ThanksBarn]

I think it would be interesting to build a intruder/welder/ravager deck and run it against the gauntlet, the deck could even include thirst for knowledge, amazing with welder and it could even include lightning greaves to protect your ravagers and win faster and it can protect your welders. Just some thoughts.

[Meddling Mike]

I think it would be interesting to build a intruder/welder/ravager deck and run it against the gauntlet, the deck could even include thirst for knowledge, amazing with welder and it could even include lightning greaves to protect your ravagers and win faster and it can protect your welders. Just some thoughts.

Having contemplated the idea and spoken about it with Jacob briefly, he surmised that the idea was terrible, and after some thought I came to the same conclusions. Intruder alarm is really just too clunky a card to be playing I believe.

It just ends up being like a bad control slaver deck. I'd rather run the mindslavers which are good even if I don't have the whole combo working and the pentavus allows for a solid lock, which, even if it gets the whole combo out, ravager/intruder alarm/welder does not provide, there's still the distinct possibility that your opponent can just chump block the ravager with a gorilla shaman or some other variety of dork.

[jpmeyer]

The deck more or less goes off as it is just with Skullclamp.  There's no need to make the combo unnecessarily larger.

[Eastman]

I tested pretty thoroughly with a ravager deck we tried to design in Hadley.

I gave up on the deck because it lacked resiliency. It was often blazingly fast and powerful in goldfishing but just fell to two or more control elements.

Skullclamp is broken though so the deck has potential. I wouldn't be surprised to see it make a few more top 8's but it isn't currently tier 1 material by any means.