[Discussion] The price of Mishra's Workshop

[Jhaggs]

Has anyone noticed the incredible spike in the price of Mishra's Workshop lately?  The links below are to completed auctions that sold workshop at $150, $160, and $200!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3179895846&category=19115

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3179943768&category=38294

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3178480980&category=19115

Is a NM/M Mishra's Workshop now offically more valuable than a NM/M Mox Pearl?  Obvisously the new artifact sets and new artifact decks has had a major influence on the market value for this card....but an increase by 50% to 75%?  I maybe making a mountain out of a mole hill, but wasn't workshop going for around 100 dollars 3 to 4 months ago?  I am amazed that it has increased that much that fast.

Side Edit:  I wonder if the price of cards influences any B&R rescritction list decisions?  What was the most expensive card to be restricted at the time of its restriction?

[BreathWeapon]

I'd pick up your Bazaars while nobody is looking and wait for the Workshop craze to calm down. Trinisphere and Mindslaver don't warrant such a ridiculous price increase.

[Petko]

Scary!

Although the latter auction's high bid finish is due to a ton of positive feedback, still, it's quite scary to see it that high

[rvs]

it's basicly how the market works. There's demand for workshops. Do take note there are LESS workshops then moxes on the world, so probably also less of them on the market. Also, any deck that needs workshops wants 4, while decks that want a mox pearl only need 1! Big difference!

I wouldn't be surprised if Bazaar would go the same way, although I think that will go more gradually, unless they print a card that's just as sick with Bazaar as Trinisphere and especially the new Crucible of Worlds will be with workshop.

[Jacob Orlove]

Bidder locations: Denmark, Italy, Sweeden. Exchange rates do matter.

[Jhaggs]

Jacob,

  Interesting observation.  To kill some time I went to xe.com to see what the exchange rates were:

Link 1: Denmark to US currency conversion = 1 kroner to .164 US dollar.
The workshop sold for $152.50.


Link 2: Italy to US currency conversion = 1 Euro to 1.22 US dollars.
The workshop sold for $162.00

Link 3: Sweden to US currency conversion = 1 kronor to .131 US dollar.
The workshop sold for $207.50

Morefling,

  I forgot about how rare the workshops were compared to the moxes.  Thanks for pointing that out.  I think it is still incredible to see how much higher the price of a workshop is being sold for on ebay.

[Smash]

Well look at it this way.

About a year ago, after workshops were already "big stuff", they were in the 80-100 range. Mox pearl or whatever was around $140-$150.

Now mox pearl is like $250. Doesn't it seem logical that workshop would be over $150?  

(not to mention workshops decks are more and more popular. I find them very fun, yet competitive. For all the people that hate tog, you gotta have something else to play  )

I think stax will be the first deck to hit $5,000


@Jhaggs: The point about exchange rate is the U.S. Dollar is weak right now. So while an american may only pay me $200 USD for my mox pearl, a german will pay me $300 USD. The reason for this, is that because of favorable exchange rates, that $300 USD only comes out to "feel" like $200 USD to the german.

[johnstown713]

First I would like to make it clear that workshop is an awsome card and I don't deny that.  I also don't believe the decks it is in are broken.  I think it is horribly overpriced for a card that keeps getting closer to being banned.   Although I do think it was an excellent point to bring up the fact that there are less of them and you need 4.  Oh sweet proxies.  

[defector]

I bought my workshops for 60, 70, 91, 100.  Each about a month apart, demonstrating an 8-15% increase in value each month.  Bazaar and Mana Drain will follow this course as well.  Bazaar will go higher and faster than drain will, but soon these will al be in the 100-200 dolar range.  The type 1 card pool is in a boom stage right now, some of it fueled no doubt by currency exchange differences and some by the volume of players.  When it's going to level is anyones guess, but I think we're going to be dropping our jaws at some non power cards for some time.  On the other hand, Illusioanry mask has been stable at 110-130, might be a better buy than it looks.
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[M.Solymossy]

at this rate, guys like me who have just recently been getting into competitive budget type 1 won't be able to get the drains and bazaars and such they need....

it's quite sad, really,  

[glenchuy]

italian drains are already hovering on $60-$65 and english drains are already on the $70-$80 mark.

bazaars have gone up to $120 too.  because more players are starting to play t1, the prices are going to steadily climb until they reach saturation point.  

i still knock my head whenever i remember that a few years ago i sold my bazaars for $70 a set and had to spend $380 for a complete to buy a set a few months back.

[defector]

I feel that, i waited too long to buy my last drain, and paid as much for it as I paid for the first two i bought.  I still kick myseklf over not buying moxen for 30 byucks, because they were "epensive" and a royal assassin was only 8, omgwtf!
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[johnstown713]

All I have to say is buy the 4 of's because if they do get restricted I doubt the price will decrease.  In my opinion buy drains now and pay the little extra for english ones becuase they will just keep rising.  Time to go get a play set.

[Smash]

All I have to say is buy the 4 of's because if they do get restricted I doubt the price will decrease.  In my opinion buy drains now and pay the little extra for english ones becuase they will just keep rising.  Time to go get a play set.

The price would bomb if they got restricted, same for drains.

Still, doing that would be stupid as most intelligent people agree.

[Pago]

Well, a rather long time ago, I actually saw them going for $90, US i think. It was quite strange, I was contemplating making a wMUD deck, and with the intention of proxying the 5 power. Then I was discouraged by the high price of the Workshop. Talk about irony.. I should've stocked up on them earlier..

At least I got investments in a pearl,ruby, and emerald (super nm)

[Gaea]

I live in italy and the exchange is really a good thing for us, for example in italy you can find moxes between 200 and 250 euros more or less, on ebay i can find the same moxes at the same price but they're dollars, so instead of paying 250€ for a mox i pay 250$ that are about 200€

[Lashkar]

Heh, danish magic prices are turning _sick_ and with the favorable exchange rate, buying cards in USA is more attractive than ever. There is a guy in Dk who's buying 2 nm workshops for up to 1050 kr ~ 170 $, and as far as I can see only two salesmen have contacted him in his thread and only recently.
Oh well, glad I have my pow-pow, zars, drains and shops and I picked it most up before it got insanely priced

[jazzykat]

The only thing I can say on this issue, is you need to get an OK job, save up all your money and buy what you can from a reputable source as fast as you can. Although, I think power prices will go down a bit when the dollar strenghtens they won't be down forever or that much. Damn Europeans and their euro!

[rvs]

<3 the euro.

Anyway, is there a real reason why this thread is open? It does seem like a typical whiner thread.

[Pago]

Whats the exchange rate from canadian to euro? Is it the same as a Canadian to U.S. exchange rate?

[CSeraph]

No. Think for just two seconds about that... a single currency trading at equal rates for differently value currency would quickly generate anyone infinite money. Canadian dollars are worth fewer Euros than US dollars.

Just look it up for once: http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi