Eureka and Pandemonium

[dicemanx]

If I Eureka and have a Pandemonium plus creatures in hand, can I make it so that the opponent takes Pandemonium damage? Is order of "playing" cards under Eureka important? Can I wait until the opponent drops his creatures before dropping Pandemonium to not take damage?

[DEA]

The cards put into play during Eureka enter play one at a time. This means that if two of the same Legend are put into play as the result of this spell that the second one is buried, not both of them. [Aahz 1994/06/22]

apparently the ORDER of permanents coming into play is important
however, triggered effects go on the stack after eureka resolves
so i think, yes, you can stack it so your opponent gets it up the arse  :lol:

[dicemanx]

Yeah, I checked out the summaries for Eureka and saw the Legends ruling, but it's not entirely clear what happens with Pandemonium, or any card with a triggered ability that triggers off another card put into play by Eureka.

Run on sentences 4L .

[Dante]

I'm not a judge, but if you drop Pandemonium first under Eureka, then I would say yes, the pandemonium triggered abilities would happen because:

"The cards put into play during Eureka enter play one at a time. This means that if two of the same Legend are put into play as the result of this spell that the second one is buried, not both of them. [Aahz 1994/06/22] "

So Pandemonium is in play and when the creatures are brought into play, the triggered ability happens, but doesn't resolve until the Eureka is done.

"Any abilities that trigger due to these cards coming into play do not actually resolve until after the entire Eureka effect is done resolving. [WotC Rules Team 1998/02/01] "

[DEA]

join the queue waiting for jaapman to chime in  :lol:

[Toad]

The order of putting cards into play is important. Even if you are resolving a single spell, permanents that comes into play during the resolution will only see the other permanents that are already into play by the time you Eureka them.

For example, imagine you have Pandemonium and a random 2/2 in hand. If you Eureka the 2/2 first, then the Pandemonium, nothing will trigger. If you Eureka the Pandemonium then the 2/2, the Pandemonium's triggered ability will go on the stack at the next time any player would receive priority.

So yes, you can wait until your opponent drops his creatures before dropping the Eureka.

At the end of the resolution, all the triggered abilities will go on the stack according to the APNAP rule (Active Player, Non Active Player). That means all your opponent's triggers will resolve in the order he wants before yours. That can be annoying if you are low on life and you desperately need to drop that Pandemonium.

[Jaapmans]

Except for the typo, Toad is correct.

Jaap

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So yes, you can wait until your opponent drops his creatures before dropping the *Pandemonium*
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