(x), Sac, Targets itself.. Legal or Not?

[Tijnie]

Hi there, Ive one question that you'll almost never need but i want it to know, with a wasteland it might reduce two damage from a PoP.

Wasteland:

Errata:  : Add to your mana pool. ; ,Sacrifice Wasteland: Destroy target nonbasic land.

Well the question is really short, can a Wasteland target itself?? same goes for fanatics and other cool stuff. I think not, cause when you sac it, you'll need to pick target after saccing right?? or am I mistaking??

thnx for helping, bye Tijnie

[jpmeyer]

It works.  You pay costs after you choose targets

[JSexton]

It works. Otherwise, Kaervek's Torch wouldn't work at all.

[rvs]

It works. Otherwise, Kaervek's Torch wouldn't work at all.

What does Torch have to do with this?

[JSexton]

It works. Otherwise, Kaervek's Torch wouldn't work at all.

What does Torch have to do with this?

If you paid costs before targets were chosen, then Torch's ability wouldn't happen. You'd put Counterspell on the stack, pay UU for it, then target Torch. Torch would say, "Okay, when you pay your mana, pay an extra 2." You say, "Ha! I already paid! Too late, sucker!"

But that's not the case. You choose targets, then pay costs. Which explains why you can have Wasteland target itself.

[DEA]

you sure have the habit of picking esoteric card examples  

[Dante]

you sure have the habit of picking esoteric card examples  

It could mean the difference between 2 extra damage from Price of Progress if there are no other non-basics out.  This was more prevelant though when decks actually ran Price....

[DEA]

actually i was referring to the torch, not the waste

[JSexton]

you sure have the habit of picking esoteric card examples  

Huh. I tried to use an example which would be generally known to a Type 1 player. I could have used, say, Floodwater Dam instead. That's esoteric.