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« on: April 01, 2004, 06:53:39 pm »

hi i just got to canada for the next few months and i have no clue what the meta here is like and i have not competed in any tournys here yet but there are a few i am going to in the next  few weeks and i just wanted to know what would be a good choice for a deck for an unknown meta such as the situation i am in calls for and i was think of mad-dragon cause i personally like the surprise factor of the deck and i also like the sqee/bazaar draw but i dont know if this is a good choice but i will post my deck list any way but since i am strapped for time i cant explain card choices at the moment but i will do so later or tomorrow but heres the decklist anyway.


creatures//

4-sqee goblin nabob
4-wild mongrel
4-basking rootwalla
4-arrogant wurm
3-worldgorger dragon
1-ambassador laquatus
1-anger
1-uktabi orangatan
1-gorilla shaman

spells//
1-demonic tutor
1-ancestral recall
1-timewalk
4-animate dead
4-survival of the fittest
1-lions eye diamond(i replaced the pearl with this is it a good idea??)
1-black lotus
4-moxen(no pearl)

land//
4-bazaar of baghdad
4-wooded foothills
1-wind swept heath
1-forest
2-tropical island
4-taiga
4-bayou

sideboard(needs work)
1-caller of the claw
2-wonder
3-rack and ruin
3-pyroblast
3-firery temper
3-xantid swarm

ok. i know it needs work but the only games i have lost with this deck were against control slaver played by eric(ELD) and they were close exept one game were i was totaly destroyed.As far as i can tell this is the best deck for an unknown meta but i could use any ideas and help is appreciated and as for decks i cannot build are ones with these cards cause i dont own em-illusionary mask-mana drain:(-but i do own a set of workshops and bazaars and havw all the power exept pearl and twister so any deck ideas will be tested
                                 thank you for your time
                                             barry A.K.A. slighguy

First of all, you never added any explanations or addition information to this post. Second, your spelling and grammar are atrocious, as is your (lack of) punctuation. More on these themes in posts below.

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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2004, 10:58:55 pm »

Why don't you get a second Laquatus, a few Compultions, some disruption and play just straight up Dragon? You have pretty much everything to make the optimal build decribed in the Dragon Primer here on the site.

This post needs more content. At the very least, you need to say more about Dragon than just "why aren't you playing it?"

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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2004, 03:15:02 pm »

i do have everything needed for dragon but i would rather play something that doesnt die so easy to tormods crypt which is in alot of sideboards.

Oh look, a reason why you're playing this deck, AND the beginnings of a metagame analysis. This could have made for a really good post. Instead, you neglected capitalization and punctuation, and barely managed to write an entire sentence.

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2004, 03:22:46 pm »

Dragon has a faster kill rate though so it might be better.  Has madness still been putting up good standings lately?

This post also needs more content. That a combo deck goldfishes faster than an aggro-combo deck may be true, but saying it doesn't actually add anything useful to the discussion.

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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2004, 04:11:15 pm »

the mad-dragon build that i play has done really well for me since i have only lost with it to one deck and its always the same person(control slaver played by ELD)

other than that i have beaten every other deck that i played
mask
keeper
mono blue
sligh
Tog
GAT
stax
Slaver(other than ELD)
everything that you can think of it has beat

This post is either a complete fabrication or utterly worthless. If it's true, then your opponents (with the obvious exception of ELD, who you didn't beat) must have all been terrible enough to make any results against them meaningless. NO DECK goes undefeated against everything unless you're playing terrible MWSers all day AND none of them get lucky hands.

However, it doesn't really matter whether what you're saying is a total lie or just irrelevant, because in either case it's worthless.

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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2004, 09:31:27 pm »

I know this is a really old thread but i was wondering if this could be a contender again?Any info would be helpful!

Do not bump eight month old threads--even your own. Especially do not bump terrible old threads like this one. Most especially do not bump terrible old threads like this one with a one-line, content free post that has atrocious punctuation and other mistakes.

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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2004, 06:58:25 am »

you should drop blue to reduce being hosed by non-basic collateral hate.  e.g. CoW.

This post *also* needs more content. It's pretty much par for the thread at this point, but you could have at least suggested some cards to add.  

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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2004, 07:24:35 am »

I was thinking about droping the Blue for a little more Red but I didnt know if it was a wise idea.Plus I didnt know what cards to put in its place,I was think of stuff like firery temper,another anger???any ideas?

"I was think of stuff"? That's awful, awful grammar. Also, words need to be separated by *spaces* and not just punctuation marks. This post also has very little to say. You can't get feedback from people unless you give them enough information. This post, though, does not have anywhere near enough information to generate useful responses.

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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2004, 04:50:56 pm »

Welcome to the good half of North America. I am only familiar with the Meta-Game in Toronto, but to help you out, it is made up mainly of Stax or 5/3 and Oath.

If you are other places in Ontario, the site you should go to is:

www.mtgontario.com

If you are outside Ontario, I'm don't know about the meta.

Good Luck, and once again, welcome.

dg

maybe you missed the date on the post where he says he's going to Canada "for a few months"--that was in April. If he still wanted information on the Canadian meta, he would have mentioned in in his December post. Now, this is mostly his fault for bumping an obsolete thread, but you still need to pay attention to the threads you're posting in.

Also, your English needs work, but since it's not your first language, that's forgiveable.

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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2004, 12:09:38 am »

Toronto meta also consists of tons of wierd decks,WATCH OUT. Fish is a huge one. Lots of madness, Parfait, Workshop (huge), Stompy, Suicide Black.

Enjoy And Let Us Know if You Are Comming To Toronto

Why Did You Capitalize Every Word In That Sentence? Also, see my comments in the previous post about the april/december disparity, and the lack of need for canadian metagame information in this thread. Also: your metagame sucks.

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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2004, 01:37:39 am »

Quote from: slighguy
I know this is a really old thread but i was wondering if this could be a contender again?Any info would be helpful!

Let me save poor Jacob some trouble and say, I think we want to know why you would advocate your version of Dragon over any other.  Sure, you don't autoscoop to Tormod's Crypt, but neither does regular Dragon.  It does seem like, however, that you autoscoop to Chalice of the Void set at 2 (you can't even Dragon your way out of it; you only run Animate).

You don't do the Dragon thing very well.  With only 3 WGD and 4 animate spells, you could get into some trouble, especially if they find a way to get around Laquatus's ability.  A lot of decks also pack Sliver Queen for the same reason.  Ivory Mask and the like hurt you.

You don't seem to do the aggro thing well either.  You have maybe 13 creatures that can swing, which means you don't have the threat density or speed that I'd like to see out of an aggro-deck, and without any control elements, that's the role you're stuck in.

So why this version over straight up Dragon.dec or Madness.dec?  Explain some choices please, and tell us why it's so great.  And don't just say you beat XYZ deck.  I mean, even Faerie.dec wins once in a while.
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2004, 02:02:44 am »

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1-ambassador laquatus

spells//
1-ancestral recall
1-timewalk
4-animate dead
1-lions eye diamond(i replaced the pearl with this is it a good idea??)

land//
4-bazaar of baghdad
4-wooded foothills
1-wind swept heath
1-forest
2-tropical island
4-taiga
4-bayou



black is essential to the deck, so instead of branching out to other colors, try using more black cards so that you'll justify using it and not just be splashing black for animate dead.

+2 duress/+1 duress +1 therapy
+3 cabal therapy

-1 lion's eye diamond
-1 ancestral recall
-1 timewalk
-1 mox sapphire
-1 gorilla shaman (or you can keep it and drop duress and run 4 therapies)

therapy is also useful in the rare occurence that you get a dragon in your hand but you don't have an outlet to discard it.

LED isn't really needed, you can't really use it to fuel your animate deads since you end up discarding them when you activate LED.

by dropping your blue cards (and obviously, the 4th color) you can strengthen your mana base becasue you can now afford to run basic lands which will make sure that you don't get screwed when you need black mana to cast animate dead but all of your black sources have been wasted.

4-bazaar of baghdad
4-bayou
4-taiga
3-bloodstained mire
2-wooded foothills
1-forest
1-mountain
1-swamp

finally, since you're already running red, you might want to run hellkite instead of laquatus since gaea's blessing screws up your plan, and we all hate oath Razz.  in the worst case scenario, you can animate hellkite and swing.

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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2004, 01:37:48 pm »

you're in fire!!!  or you just have anything better to do ! Razz
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