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Author Topic: Slivers, made for casual  (Read 1941 times)
Sauce
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« on: April 15, 2004, 05:49:47 pm »

OK, so I haven't made too many posts here, and the ones I do make tend to be centered around more casual decks. Keeping with this trend I've been working on one of my very old decks trying to 'update' it if you will. I guess I should say what I define as casual before actually posting my list. Me and my friends, when we play casual, we don't really have a banned/restricted list. One of my friends decks uses 4 Balances for example. We do not allow the use of Ante cards, and none us have any P9 to abuse (well I have 1 Ruby, but that's legal anyway).

The sliver deck I played roughly 3 years ago looked like this

4 Crystalline Sliver
4 Muscle Sliver
4 Acidic Sliver
4 Winged Sliver
3 Talon Sliver

4 Wall of Blossoms

4 Mana Leak
3 Recurring Nightmare

4 Birds of Paradise

1 Mox Diamond (Only had 1)
3 Lotus Petals (Replacing the other Mox Diamonds)
4 City of Brass
4 Reflecting Pool
2 Undiscovered Paradise
X Plains
X Island
X Forest

No Sliver Queen simply because I didn't have one.

The Reacurring Nightmare, besides being able to switch a BoP for a more usefull Sliver had a nice Synergy with Wall of Blossoms, as have 1 in play and 1 in the graveyard meant pay 3 mana to draw a card.

So, using this deck as a template I've been tying to build a Sliver deck that's more up to date.

So what I've been thinking is something like

4 Sliver Queen
4 Crystalline Sliver
4 Muscle Sliver
1 Acidic Sliver
1 Winged Sliver
1 Talon Sliver
1 Synapse Sliver
1 Essence Sliver
1 Sliver Overlord

4 Birds of Paradise

4 Survival of the Fittest
3 Recurring Nightmare

4 Force of Will
4 Mana Leak / Mana Drain

4 Mox Diamond
4 Chrome Mox

4 City of Brass
4 Reflecting Pool
4 Undiscovered Paradise
4 Thran Quarry

Ok, so by adding in the Survival of the Fittest's I've cut down most of the Sliver's to 1 of's. The 4 Muscle Sliver's are a no brainer, since having more then 1 of them in play has a benefit, the other Slivers except Crystalline can be cut down to 1 since having more then 1 in play has no effect.

4 Crystalline are there because dropping one turn one usually causes opponents to go berserk (So many useless burn spells).

4 Sliver Queen's are there because they're so usefull, you can toss one to pay for a Force of Will, Imprint one on a Chrome Mox to allow it to tap for Any Color, and you can always pitch it to Survival of the Fittest to find another sliver (and then revive it with Recurring Nightmare! weeee)

So now, any suggestions? Keep in mind that this is generally a 'for fun' deck, but I would like it to be about as good as a Sliver deck can be.

Any and All suggestions are appreciated, thanks!

Regards,
Sauce
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2004, 11:28:44 pm »

-1 Sliver Queen
+1 Squee, Goblin Nabob

I'd try and find room for a Root Sliver too.  Beating Blue is some good, I hear.
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2004, 10:43:02 am »

I think you could put a few key slivers in the side and use Living Wishes to back up your SotFs. And yes, a Squee is some good with Survival, I hear. Back when Slivers first came out a deck using Sliver/SotF won the Ontario Type 2 championships. This reminds me of it. Nice deck.
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2004, 04:19:49 am »

Thanks for the reply guys,  and I like both suggestions of Squee and Living Wish. I've been trying to find a way to fit both in the deck, and it hasn't been easy.

I've been thinking about going down to 1 Crystalline and adding in 3 Living Wish. This however also takes 3 cards out that can pay for Force of Will. I think If I have to remove the crystallines, Force will probably have to go.

Please give me some advice here

Thanks again,
Sauce
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2004, 09:46:09 am »

Try using Coat of Arms[/u][/b]
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2004, 10:35:03 am »

Do not cut FoWs -

Make three Mox Diamonds EsGs
Make three Chrome Mox basic lands
(why not play a legal deck)

Remove and put in sideboard
1 Talon Sliver
1 Synapse Sliver
1 Essence Sliver
1 Acidic Sliver
1 Crystalline Sliver
or other useful slivers of your choice or creatures
- you could wish up Meddling Mages or Zealots if I have extra mana or
even an Exalted Angel for fun - this is casual.

Add to main deck
Root Sliver
Wishes
Squee
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2004, 10:56:25 am »

Thanks again for the help bebe.

Since this is casual I don't have to worry about sideboard, which means I just have to keep all the other slivers 'on me' whenever I play the deck.  Although I probably will come up with a legitimate sideboard anyway.

As for the Mana Base, I completely agree with making is legal is a good option to have, but since I have 4 of each mox (diamond and chrome) I just use them for fun. Although, like with the slivers not in the deck, I keep the cards 'on me' to make it legal if I feel like switching it up.
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2004, 10:38:38 pm »

-Mana-

4 Thran Quarry
4 City of Brass
4 Reflecting Pool
4 Undiscovered Paradise

4 Chrome Mox
4 Mox Diamond

4 Birds of Paradise

-Slivars-

4 Sliver Queen
4 Crystalline Sliver
4 Muscle Sliver
1 Sliver Overlord
1 Root Sliver
1 Talon Sliver
1 Synapse Sliver
1 Essence Sliver
1 Squee, Goblin Nabob

-The Help-

4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain (Counterspell)
4 Survival of the Fittest
4 Living Wish
3 Recurring Nightmare

= 65 cards

Obviously 65 cards is 5 too many, however, I'm almost tempted to leave it the way it is.

Here's what I keep thinking, when I cut the utility slivers to the 'sideboard' (for casual that's just outside the game) ready to be 'wished' into the game, I keep wondering why I'm using Survival of the Fittest. Sure throwing Squee away for a sliver every turn is good, but when all I'm getting is more muscle slivers out of the deck it's just not worth it.

For example I could free up the 4 Survival slots, keep the utility slivers main decked and use Sliver Overlords ability to search for whatever I need. This isn't as good as throwing Squee away for 1 mana to get them, but  if Survival's are in the deck I just don't have room for the utility slivers.

So I'm very conflicted at this point. Another obvious solution would be to cut the Mana Drains, however, without the drains (I think I mentioned this before) I just can't see having enough blue cards to safely use Force of Wills. Not running some kind of counter isn't really an option since Wrath of God completely ruins my day.

So it's sideboard the Utility Slivers and keep the Survival's to fetch more Muscle Slivers, or cut the Survival's and rely on Sliver Overlord to get me what I need. (And remember, I am running 4 Living Wish's, so it's like i'm running 5 main deck).

Maybe since it is casual I can just keep it at 65 cards. With the Synapse Slivers card draw shouldn't be too much of a problem.

Again, any and all help is greatly appreciated... as I've taken most of it so far =P

Regards,
Sauce
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