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« on: April 26, 2004, 08:49:17 pm » |
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Well, after taking a long, hard lok at my meta i can see this as being the absolute best deck choice. The reason being it's versatility and flexibility to the colorful matchups i see like combo and aggro. Many of my choices are metagame appropriate whicih i'll explain but for now:
You can't handle 1.00
3 psychatog
4 force of will 4 mana drain 3 duress
2 pernicious deed
4 brainstorm
4 accumulaed knowledge 2 deep analysis 3 intuiton
1 demonic tutor 1 mystical tutor ( my beliefs on this card are expressed below) 31 1 ancestral recal 1 time walk 3 cunning wish 1 yawgmoth's will
4 pollted delta 4 underground sea 4 tropical island 1 lotus 5 moxen 1 library of alexandria 1 stripmine 3 wasteland
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1 berserk 1 oxidize 1 stifle 1 misdirection 1 vampiric tutor 1 fact or fiction 1 diabolic edict 2 deep analysis 1 capsize 3 coffin purge 2 naturalize
Well, here is my list. The deck itself is pretty standard but..
3 Intuition: Yes, i believe that is a stronger number allowing for much faster cards drawing when an intuition is seen sooner.
Mystical tutor is a great card, IMP. It allows fora draw of anything ou of the deck minus togs and deeds.
Duress has also proven invaluable against combo.
the strips are also in my build because they are too diruptive not to run in my meta.
Thanks... again
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2004, 09:13:05 pm » |
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Not enough discussion. Moved to Newbie.
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2004, 08:44:30 am » |
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What about the volcanic islands? REB is strong in mirror. And why capsize ? 1 pernicious seems to be enough. Besides hulk smash smashes things no need for to much removal. But i do agree with the 3 intuition. May need gorilla shaman for Slaver match.
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2004, 11:34:08 am » |
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It's just kind of hard to comment on this because this is pretty much identical to the consensus 3c Tog
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2004, 04:37:38 pm » |
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3 Intuitons but no Sol Ring or Mana Crypt?
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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2004, 07:42:27 pm » |
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It's hard to add sol ring/crypt because i dont want to lack on the colored mana..
Red wasn't added because i dodn't feel it neccessary, but...
it may be an option.
Can anyone give me a list for the most powerful red cards in T-O-G
thanks
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2004, 07:46:04 pm » |
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Mana Crypt is definitely better than Mox Pearl, which is essentially colorless mana to you anyway. I can't really see a reason not to run that or at least Sol Ring.
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2004, 08:32:52 pm » |
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That's an exteremely good point. -1 mox pearl +1 mana crypt Also, i can not cut the strips. There are critical for my meta. Otherwise the sol ring would go in as well. 
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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2004, 10:21:58 pm » |
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Can anyone give me a list for the most powerful red cards in T-O-G
Firestorm Artifact Mutation Gorilla Shaman And the most important of all... Red Elemental Blast
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2004, 07:42:45 pm » |
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First of all, thanks.
Nextly, here is a new list!!
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4 force of will 4 mana drain 3 duress
1 pernicious deed 2 gorilla shaman
4 brainstorm 1 ancestral recal 1 time walk 1 demonic tutor 1 mystical tutor 1 yawgmoth's will 3 cunning wish
4 acumulated knowledge 2 deep analysis 3 intuition
3 tog
4 pollted delta 3 underground sea 3 tropical island 3 volcanic island 1 lotus 4 moxen 1 mana crypt 1 library of alexandria 1 stripmine 2 wasteland
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1 berserk 1 oxidize 1 stifle 1 misdirection 1 vampiric tutor 1 fact or fiction 1 artifact mutation 2 deep analysis 3 red elemental blast 2 coffin purge 1 rack and ruin
Is this better now with red??
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2004, 07:59:02 pm » |
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You've got to decide what is more important: red or wastelands. You cannot have both, as one blood moon entirely wrecks your deck, as does Back to Basics. If you say Wasteland is critical to your meta, I'd run it. Red is better if you're facing down a lot of control, but that's what Back to Basics on the 3C Hulk sideboard is for.
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2004, 08:12:49 pm » |
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If Wasteland's critical, then play the non-red version with Back to Basics boarded.
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2004, 08:15:43 pm » |
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i def. think that the wastes are more important than the 4th color. Essentially, that allows me to drop the ruby for a sol ring.
The sideboard now looks like this though:
1 berserk 1 oxidize 1 stifle 1 misdirection 1 vampiric tutor 1 fact or fiction 1 diabolic edict 2 deep analysis 3 back to basics 2 coffin purge 1 naturalize
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