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« on: May 20, 2004, 05:17:31 pm »

Mind Taker
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Creature -- Human Wizard
1/1
Whenever Mind Taker deals combat damage to a player, that player shuffles their library and then removes the top card of their library from the game.

Kind of a weird Blue creature that popped into my head.  Thought I'd get everyone elses opinion and see how it pans out.

Suggestions?  Flavor text?
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2004, 05:18:37 pm »

Mindsweeper
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Creature -- Illusion
1/1
Mindsweeper is unblockable.
Whenever Mindsweeper deals damage to a player, that player shuffles their library and then removes the top card of their library from the game.
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-Evasion
-Triggers on any damage
-Cost tweak
-Name change and flavor text
-New creature type
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2004, 05:21:06 pm »

It should have flying...
Some sort of evasion.
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2004, 05:22:51 pm »

I think this is actually quite weak compared to something similar like Rootwater Thief. You can probably give this flying. Cool card.

I don't like the name too much - something like Thought Devourer would be much cooler, except that it already exists...the concept for the name is right, but I feel that the name should sound more elaborate given the effect. Smile

As for flavour text, how about something like, "The best way to rid one of all life's little inconveniences" - or do you want something more serious?
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2004, 06:33:49 pm »

The name can go.  It was a placeholder for the most part.  But, I'm not good with names, so I'm open to suggestion.

Flying or maybe just Unblockable?

Flying would be weird without a creature type change.

I don't think Unblockable would be too powerful on this guy.
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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2004, 06:42:01 pm »

Even with unblockable, this card would probably be an uncommon at its current power level.  As of right now, it's not even comparable to Raven Guild Master, and as combo_dude mentioned, Rootwater Thief.  Perhaps to change it up a little bit, rather than dealin damage in order to remove a card, how about something like:

UUU, tap: Search target player’s library for a card and remove it from the game. Then that player shuffles his or her library.

Though maybe that's too similar to Supreme Inquisitor
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2004, 06:58:51 pm »

Well, I actually wanted it to be a random removal from the library.  I didn't want it to be too powerful.  There are already plenty of very good library removal cards.

I was going for something more middle of the road.

I could change it to an activated ability, but I really did want to keep the combat damage mechanic.  I could change it to just damage.  That can make it a little better I suppose.
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2004, 07:00:18 pm »

If it doesn't have evasion, it could very easily be a 1/1 for U with that ability.
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2004, 07:09:38 pm »

First off props for making a sweet card.  I mlike the random part of the ability a lot and think it should have flying.  I would also knock a colorless of the card's casting cost and then it would be nice.  How about

Mind Sweeper
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Flying
When this craeture does damage to a player, shuffle that player's library and remove the top card from it.  Then shuffle the library.
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2004, 07:11:21 pm »

There's no point to shuffling after RFG the top card if you shuffled beforehand.
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2004, 07:12:46 pm »

Sorry about that i forgot I was shuffling first.  i think you need to shufle then remove the top card and leave the library.  That way it is nice and random.
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2004, 07:17:50 pm »

Do you think 1U is ok?
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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2004, 07:22:30 pm »

Maybe it is just me but I think it is ok.  Rootwater thief is 1U but you have to pay to make it flying and search.  That is outweighed by the drawback on this of it being a random card.  It looks could at 1U to me.

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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2004, 07:29:51 pm »

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Maybe it is just me but I think it is ok.  Rootwater thief is 1U but you have to pay to make it flying and search.  That is outweighed by the drawback on this of it being a random card.  It looks could at 1U to me.

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Thanks.  I like the name and flavor text, so I'll go with those. Smile
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« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2004, 07:34:48 pm »

I would really like the card if it had flying over unblockable.  Then you could at least chump a flyer if necassary.  Flying is always a better trait to have and it would fit the card better IMO.  Does anyone think that would make it to powerful or am I the only one the flying would only make the card stable.

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« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2004, 09:44:14 pm »

Is human wizard the best type for this? I’m thinking that something like illusion might be good since its unblockable and messes with your mind.
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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2004, 01:12:41 am »

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Is human wizard the best type for this? I’m thinking that something like illusion might be good since its unblockable and messes with your mind.


Illusion is good.

I think I'm going to stay with the unblockable abiltiy over flying.  I kind of like the flavor of the Illusion.
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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2004, 02:33:09 am »

I'm still not that keen on the name. It's too similar to "Minesweeper", the most addictive Windows game in existence... :lol:
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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2004, 07:42:15 am »

Last year I thought up a card that was very similar to this one later posted on Brainburst. The idea to do something useful with the removed card indeed offers some funky options that, to me, seem a lot more fun than leaving it at just removing them.

Then again, maybe those cards are broken...
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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2004, 09:10:09 am »

It could definetly be an illusion if it is unblockable but it would be an overall better card if it had flying so it seems like it should stay as a Human Wizard.  As for another name:  Keeper of Thoughts???
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« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2004, 09:10:46 am »

The flavor was for something to whack random knowledge outside of the affected player's head, not so much to take the mind (the name Mind Taker was really just filler and a tribute to Mentok).

I don't really want the randomly removed card to be played.
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« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2004, 01:14:33 pm »

24 hour clock?
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« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2004, 12:30:53 pm »

Closed and added. I think this fulfills our pun quota for the year.[/color]
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