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« on: June 20, 2004, 01:41:12 am »

OK, this is a small tournament, but 1) it’s a new store, 2) I haven’t posted a report in a long time, and 3) all the rounds were against strong players – so it’s all wheat, no chaff.  Wink

Also, I think I’ll post this in the Open Forum, rather than the Tournament Forum so that the other people who attended but don’t have full memberships can respond.  



“Who’s on Firstâ€? used to be an institution here in the Bay Area, but it closed up several years back and the MTG world moved on; or at least my little corner of it did.  However, last week a friend said to me “Are you going to the T1 this Saturday?  It’s in Dublin.â€? Me: “A new store?  What’s it called?â€?  Him: “Who’s on First.â€?  Me: “Well, well.â€?  

So, I show up a little before 2pm with 7/10 Split in hand.  I’ve been playing 7/10 for the last couple weeks.  I was thinking of going back to Tog, or trying that ridiculous Exalted Angel Keeper, but 7/10 has a bit the TnT feel that I like so much.  Besides, what’s more fun than to play huge creatures and Armageddon your opponent at the same time?  The store is full of T1’ers from C&Js and some old “Who’s on Firstâ€? friends.  Indeed, it is the same owner, back from a 4 year hiatus.  Cool.  Here’s what I played:

Decklist:  7/10 Split

3 Sundering Titans
2 Trike
1 Memnarch
3 Chalice (not 4.)
1 Jar
3 Gilded Lotus
7 SoLoMox
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt

4 FoW
4 Thirst
4 Brainstorm
1 Twister
1 Ancestral
1 Tinker
1 FoF
1 Time Walk (Out of fashion? Bah. Was great all day.)
1 Mystical

4 Welder  
1 Wheel

4 Workshops
1 Tolarian
4 Shivan Reef
2 City of Brass
2 Ancient Tombs
2 Volcanic Island (I own no Glimmervoid.  But I am willing to lose a land to cast Titan anyway.)

Round 1: Ken with wMUD w/Slaver.
It was Ken who told me about the tournament, so karma dictates we must play each other.  Titan is sort of poopy in this matchup, since Ken has fewer “basicsâ€? than I do.  
Game 1: He wins the die roll and dumps a monster hand on the table, Wasteland, 4x Mox, and Shaman.   I brace myself, but Ken passes the turn.  Hrm.  Things are still sketchy for me as I kept a solo Shivan Reef hand with Brainstorm and Mystical.  The Wasteland could be bad news, but I Brainstorm into another Reef and then play Mystical for Ancestral in my upkeep.  I resolve a Welder shortly, then a Gilded Lotus.  I Thirst off the Lotus pitching Memnarch and figure I have the game in the bag.  However, Ken drops Tolarian and a Mana Vault and is able to eat the Gilded in response to my Welding (!).  Hrm.  Despite my mistake, I manage to play enough artifacts to force through a weld for Memnarch and a Trike that kills Monkey before it can eat the artifacts Memnarch is trying to steal.  
Game 2: I Cap him once quickly (using Mana Crypt) seeing only one Slaver and a Trike.  I figure he’s got another dangerous win condition in hand.  He’s at 5 mana due to Workshop, so I take Slaver and two Welders and brace myself for a Pentavus or 2nd Slaver.  Instead he plays a Chalice for 1, hosing my Welders as I have hosed his.  Hrm.  I drop a second Cap and take Trike, Ancestral, Smokestack, which is a bit random of me.  We go back and forth, he takes his big turn off a Jar I cannot counter, but I have a Rack and Ruin to solve my problems afterwards.  I Tinker away my Mana Crypt for a Karn and eat much of his board to win from there.  Afterwards, Ken notes that I had won 4 Crypt flips in a row and that I finished the game at 4 life while he seen 3 Fire/Ice during the game but had always thought he had better plays than just burning me.  That would have been harsh, to be burned out by wMUD.

Match 2: Brent with rTog
Brent is very highly rated, and it’s been a long time since I have beaten him.  People have touted his “mystery deckâ€? and I vaguely hope he is playing something crappy.  But no, it’s Tog.
Game 1: He plays Underground, I play Reef, Mox, Mox, Time Walk, Ancestral.  The Walk and Ancestral accelerate me enough to hardcast Titan on the Walk turn, I smash the Underground and say go.  Brent plays Fetch (for Volcanic) and Sol Ring, telegraphing a plan to Wish for Rack and Ruin, but I have the FoW to defend with. ( I think about it a bit actually, if Titan dies he destroys Brent’s board.  Ultimately I decide that Titan just wins if he is not destroyed, so “just winningâ€? must be better.  Wink )
Game 2: Brent gets a decent start, I use a Black Lotus and a Vault to power out a quick Gilded as I am light on land.  I get a second Gilded out and am set to cast Memnarch or Trike when Rack and Ruin ends my dreams.  After some sad “draw-goâ€? action and several points of Shaman beatdown Brent flashes me 4 counterspells.  I frown, Brainstorm, find nothing and scoop.
Game 3: Brent must mull to 6, but he has the FoW for my Workshop, Vault, Jar play.  Still, that cripples the remains of his hand and a few turns later I launch a Brainstorm to set myself up.  â€œHmmm, let me think,â€? says Brent.  Brainstorm resolves and then I try Ancestral.  â€œThat’s OK,â€? says Brent, frowning mightly and giving up pretense of having a counterspell.  I slow play 3 more turns during which I resolve Welder, FoF and Memnarch with a REB sitting unused as backup.  Brent scoops after drawing his 4th consecutive mana source while I steal his Sapphire.  Note: I win 2-of-2 Mana Crypt flips in this match, 6-0 on the day.

Match 3: Christiaan with Draw7
I was going to say that Christiaan is another highly rated player, but I just checked the California ratings and all my opponents are California Top 10, which I guess is not surprising.  (Hey, look at my rating!  What happened to me!?  I’m like 5 places behind Brian Woo! Wink )  In any case we played this match on Thursday and I lost 2-0.  I won a couple fun games afterwards, and I gave the matchup some thought so hopefully this will go better.  Again, Titan is poopy since Draw7 plays about 4 “basicâ€? lands.
Game 1: I win the die roll and start ramping up.  Christiaan comes within an inch of going off on turn 2, and when he fails we have a mega FoW fight over my attempt to stack my deck with Brainstorm.  I lose that battle, but next turn I resolve a creature and start the clock.  I swing once or twice.  I have a Wheel in my hand and I agonize over it; I really don’t want to give him 7 fresh cards, but I also don’t want to just hope he doesn’t draw anything in the next 4 turns before I kill him.  I decide to Wheel, which dumps his lone MD Hurkyl’s into the graveyard and gives me the FoW I need to spike his attempt to go off next turn.
Game 2: He plays Land-Mox-Lotus-Twister and I am drawing a new hand before having played a permanent.  I get to draw another 7, dumping another hand.  I believe this is the game where I FoW his Lotus after two Draw 7s (I assumed this mattered at the time, I mean why play the Lotus if you aren’t going off this turn?) and he fizzles.  A turn or two later I get an active Welder and I am able to respond to my Tendrils death by welding Platinum Angel back into play.  (I have a moment of confusion where I think he has Hurkyl’ed me, but he unfortunately needs to Hurkyl himself to get his spellcount high enough.)  I have only 3 cards in my hand, but one of them is a Chalice which resolves for 2, blocking the 4x Hurkyl’s Christiaan likely sided in.  Christiaan takes another huge turn (hoping to find Chain of Vapor or Rack and Ruin) and settles for Tendril’ing me twice for about 46 points to buy even more time.  (Several people hear him say “So I have 54 and you are at –54,â€? and come over to watch.)  The rest of the game is nerve-wracking as he could win with Chain or Rack and Ruin and I have 2 Brainstorms and a ReB as my hand.  I begin swinging with Memnarch and Angel for 8 each turn and try to steal as much of his board as I can.  Late in the game I have two Mana Crypts and big stack of Moxes due to Memnarch’s efforts.  Christiaan tries a desperation Chain as I threaten to steal the rest of his stuff and I am able to ReB it for the win.  Somewhere in here I win another 4 Crypt rolls, before Angel makes them irrelevant.  That’s at least 10-0 on the day, which may be a bit above average.  Wink

Random thoughts: 1) Memnarch is very good.  For something that looks like such a huge piece of crap he sure does a lot of wrecking.  I don’t think I could play two though. 2) Time Walk was great all day.  When you play 7/10 (or at least when I play 7/10!) you end up taking big turns, tapping all your mana to drop things that cost 5, 6, 7 or 8 on the board.  There are so many good synergies to Time Walk in this deck since you often get bottlenecked with all these high CC cards – Gilded, Time Walk sure is sweeter than Gilded, go for instance.  Sure, Time Walk has fallen out of fashion, but whatever.  It did more than fine.  3) FoW was also great all day.  I supposed MD’ing Trinisphere shores up your game against Combo but, as Christiaan demonstrated, a good Combo deck has a rock solid workaround for this strategy.   Bang, your Trinisphere is back in your hand.  4) I played 3 Chalice with the 4th in the side.  To me, Chalice is good in some matchups, but rough in others.  I sided them out in the first two matches, then all-in for the Draw7 match.
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2004, 08:01:31 am »

Congrats.

Am I missing something or was this a 3 round swiss tourny with no prize??
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2004, 11:29:04 am »

FoW is awesome in the deck, I don't know how people can play without it.  You autolose to combo decks without it and it protects your big bombs.
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2004, 05:42:13 pm »

Brian,

This is such a coincidence.  I played this deck yesterday in La Mirada.  I really like it.  I like Memnarch too but, I replaced him with Duplicant because of Null Rod fear.  I dunno, maybe if Fish or Sligh continues to give me such a hard time, I'll have to find a way to somehow work in Razormane Masticore.  



I agree that Forces are absolutely necessary in this deck.
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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2004, 06:34:12 pm »

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I really like it. I like Memnarch too but, I replaced him with Duplicant because of Null Rod fear. I dunno, maybe if Fish or Sligh continues to give me such a hard time, I'll have to find a way to somehow work in Razormane Masticore.


Sligh can be rough, but I generally had good games against Fish.  Fish has such a hard time dealing with big guys and with all the explosive mana floating around thier Daze tricks become less good.  

I had a Duplicant in my SB but I dumped him this week.  I had imagined him being best against Tog, where you really do want to steal the creature.  I'll give this some more thought.

BTW, I am likely to be in LA on business soon, PM me and maybe we can set something up.  I definitely want to visit the cool shops while I am there.

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Am I missing something or was this a 3 round swiss tourny with no prize??


It was 3 rounds, but there were prizes.  I got a foil Serum Visions and a weird little wheely life-thingy that says "Champion" on it for winning.  Why do you ask?
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2004, 10:39:57 pm »

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It was 3 rounds, but there were prizes.  I got a foil Serum Visions and a weird little wheely life-thingy that says "Champion" on it for winning.  Why do you ask?


No special reason.  I guess that really is a small tournament.  Hopefully the scene will grow more.
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2004, 11:49:48 pm »

A store I play at gives out a Box of ultra pro binder pages for its 'tournaments' because... you know, people otherwise would have nothing to keep their cards in! they'd just sit in boxes! *end sarcasm*
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2004, 08:18:51 am »

What's your sideboard look like?  Just curious...
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2004, 11:02:38 am »

Fishhead - Nice to see a report from you. Such a long, long time. Glad you posted here.  Sanctioned play?
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but I just checked the California ratings and all my opponents are California Top 10, which I guess is not surprising.
You faced the cream of the crop, no doubt about it. Don't cut yourself short though. Btw what's your sideboard look like Wink super secret C&J tech?
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2004, 02:10:54 pm »

Wow, a new store in the "Bay" area. I hate that... like there's only 1 bay in the world. Hell I live in Tampa, we have a bay. I think I'll start refering to Tampa as the "Bay Area" to see how many left coasters it confuses.

otherwise-----> Good report!
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2004, 05:06:36 pm »

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Are there still weekly type 1 tournaments at Arenas Games on Wednesdays? I likve in St. Petersburg and would like to participate in one.
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2004, 10:05:51 pm »

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Wow, a new store in the "Bay" area. I hate that... like there's only 1 bay in the world. Hell I live in Tampa, we have a bay. I think I'll start refering to Tampa as the "Bay Area" to see how many left coasters it confuses.

otherwise-----> Good report!


I think I'm going to start facing south when I say "left coasters" and see how many right coasters it confuses.
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2004, 04:08:21 am »

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Yes, and FREE entry (at least for the next couple weeks).

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There will be a non-sanctioned 5 proxy T1 in the near future with a Library for first place. I'll keep you posted...

Regarding the 19 June 04 tourney, FishHead doesn't lose a die roll with Mana Crypt all day! "Fucking Chuck Norris..."
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2004, 10:04:53 am »

Why all versions of 7/10 split that are decks with no shuffle effects play the Brainstorms over, for instance, Serum's Visions ?
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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2004, 10:56:58 am »

Brainstorm allows for better early game plays because you see more cards before deciding what to put back; and with Thirst for Knowledge and draw-7's you see new cards fairly often. At least, that's been my experience.
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« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2004, 12:04:29 pm »

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Why all versions of 7/10 split that are decks with no shuffle effects play the Brainstorms over, for instance, Serum's Visions ?


Interesting question.  This tournament was pre-5th Dawn, which is the straightforward answer.  But I think that post-5th DawnSerum Visions will be tested at least in 7/10.

I agree with Hyperion; essentially that Brainstorm is good as-is.  I also Brainstormed almost exclusively as an Instant; especially in the post-SB matchups where I might bluff an early ReB.  So that's another advantage to Brainstorm.  Still, I lost a couple playtest games where I Brainstormed early and found junk; especially the notorious 1 Land + Brainstorm hands where you do-or-die based on the success of the Brainstorm.  Serum Visions would have been better in these cases, so I think it's an interesting idea.

For the record: this decklist has one shuffle effect; the Mystical Tutor.  

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I think I'm going to start facing south when I say "left coasters" and see how many right coasters it confuses.


Yeah, and I am going to complain bitterly whenever someone says they are from "LA".  Me: "LA?  Which LA are you talking about?  I live in Los Altos and I think we are the *real* LA."
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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2004, 11:57:37 pm »

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2) Time Walk was great all day. When you play 7/10 (or at least when I play 7/10!) you end up taking big turns, tapping all your mana to drop things that cost 5, 6, 7 or 8 on the board. There are so many good synergies to Time Walk in this deck since you often get bottlenecked with all these high CC cards

I completely agree with this. Time Walk belongs in the deck. Dropping (or Welding) Titan and then swinging with him is a huge play.

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Why all versions of 7/10 split that are decks with no shuffle effects play the Brainstorms over, for instance, Serum's Visions ?

Even with the lack of Shuffle Effects, Brainstorm is great for digging and getting what you need (and it's an instant).  My version of 7/10 runs more red, so I'm looking at Browbeat (yes, Browbeat), but that drops the blue count so low that FoW starts looking like a bad idea.

Here's what I played to top 8 at Gems (32 people. I finished in the top 8)

Bob.Titan.dec, David Hernandez, 6/18/04

4 force of will
4 thirst for knowledge
4  brainstorm
1 ancestral recall
1 time walk
1 fact or fiction
1 tinker

4 goblin welder
3 gorilla shaman
1 wheel of fortune

3 sundering titan
1 triskelion
2 Juggernaut

3 blood moon

1 memory jar

1 black lotus
1 sol ring
1 mox emerald
1 mox sapphire
1 mox pearl
1 mox ruby
1 mox jet
1 mana crypt
1 mana vault
3 gilded lotus
4 mishra’s workshop
4 volcanic island
3 shivan reef
2 glimmer void
1 tolarian academy

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4 reb
3 damping matrix
1 hurkyls recall
2 rack and ruin
3 anarchy
2 firestorm

Personally I found that Ancient Tombs were costing me games in testing. I replaced them with Volcanics. I don't care about losing a land or two when the opponent is going to die in a couple of turns.

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« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2004, 01:19:59 am »

I think Volcanics are fine in this deck as a lot decks such as Slaver, Fish, Germbus, some Hulk variants, etc etc. all run Volcanics.  So at the worst, you blow up a land and a little bit slower at casting things but it helps with mana issues, doesn't kill you and a has a good chance that it will still be on the board after a Titan hits.
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« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2004, 10:59:15 pm »

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I think Volcanics are fine in this deck as a lot decks such as Slaver, Fish, Germbus, some Hulk variants, etc etc. all run Volcanics.  So at the worst, you blow up a land and a little bit slower at casting things but it helps with mana issues, doesn't kill you and a has a good chance that it will still be on the board after a Titan hits.


But why blow up your lands when you don't have to?  Tomb also speeds you up if you don't have a Workshop.  Tomb has been nothing but good to me in testing.  It has not lost me games that I wouldn't have lost anyways.
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« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2004, 11:08:19 pm »

I can speak from my own experience. I was NEVER on the losing end of the land destruction issue, and I ran 4 Volcanics.

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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2004, 11:17:26 pm »

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I can speak from my own experience. I was NEVER on the losing end of the land destruction issue, and I ran 4 Volcanics.

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Neither have I, but what happens in the mirror (besides it being the most exciting match barring Stasis v. Stasis)?  The one with the Volcanics is going to be hurting when the Welder wars start.

Another situation:
you have just Welded Titan into play.  You have another Welder in your hand because you don't suck ass and lose to F/I.  Your Volcanic is toast when titan hits.  Your opponent savagely rips Balance because he is that "good."  If you had not been using volcanics you would be able to play the next welder, trade a mox for Titan and resume the asskicking.  My friend's build plays no Volcanics, he uses 4 Reefs, and a combination of Glimmervoids and City of Asses.
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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2004, 12:08:44 am »

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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2004, 01:44:30 pm »

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Another situation:  you have just Welded Titan into play....


Well, each land in this slot is going to have drawbacks; it's not like you might not lose (or be unable to play!) Glimmervoid.  The Volcanics haven't bitten me yet, so I am satisfied.  

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I think this is an interesting direction to take the deck.  At first, it seemed to me that it had huge anti-synergy with the rest of the deck since 7/10 runs no basic Islands.  Is it mainly for the control matchup (maybe certain combo decks as well?) Can you talk about your experiences with this card?

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You can see in my report how risky they are; if I had lost a Mana Crypt flip in the first match my opponent would have burned me out.  Two seems to be an aggressive configuration for me.
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« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2004, 01:59:36 pm »

Yeah, what seems like anti-synergy is actually a wrecking ball.

My configuration shuts just about everybody down. With 3 Gilded Lotus' I'm still able to cast whatever I want, and when it comes time to select a land for destruction I just pick an opponents non-basic mountain or take away their basic lands.  In the meantime they are sucking down 7 damage.

With FoW backup I finished one of my Hulk matches in less than 5 minutes.

Actual Example (this was vs. Hulk):
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Me: Workshop, Mox Ruby, tap Ruby for Mana Vault, tap Workshop and Mana vault for Gilded Lotus, tap Gilded for Blood Moon.
His response: Force of Will pitching something blue.
My response: Force of Will pitching Time Walk.
His response: Scoop.
My next card was Juggernaut.

I found this type of thing happening often at the tournament, which bore out my week long testing prior to the event.  Also, Blood Moon shut down most of Gay/r's lands along with manlands, and completely shut down GAT as well as GermBus. It was even good against Sligh to stop the Wastelands and Maze of Ith.

Also, by running 3 Gorilla Shaman I was able to consistently stop the opponent from having necessary mana under the Moon. Welders took care of the beatdown by allowing Titan's to come in from the graveyard (although I often cast Titan from my hand). Juggernauts were awesome, allowing cheap fat that required a response, which I often followed with a Titan.

I was never unhappy to see Blood Moon.  

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