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« on: October 20, 2004, 02:34:36 pm » |
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Recycled Life
BG
Sorcery
Sacrafice 2 creatures: Search your deck for a creature spell and put it into play. Lose life equal to creature's casting cost.
This is something that could be interesting. I think that there is enough drawback for this card to sort of balance it.
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Norm4eva
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2004, 04:21:40 pm » |
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Well firstly I am a fan of cards like Exhume and Natural Order, so a card like this appeals greatly to me.
I think your combination of drawbacks makes the thing hard to play though. Granted it's a very very good thing to just rip a creature out of your deck and throw it into play, but you've got a gold CC with a life setback AND 2 creatures to sack to it. I think it'd be plenty safe to sacrifice one creature to it. I realize that Llanowar Elves + this card = Entomb + Exhume but we all know that the reason Entomb was restricted was NOT Exhume.
In any event, the wording should change to "As an additional cost to play -this-, sacrifice a creature." Unless of course your intent was to have them sacrificed on resolution, in which case it becomes "Sacrifice two creatures. Search your library etc etc etc...Then shuffle your library."
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2004, 04:28:32 pm » |
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Wow, combo city.
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2004, 04:47:39 pm » |
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Yeah, one creature seems good. But the only thing that made me think twice about that was this scenario.
Turn 1
Play Bayou. Tap Bayou for G. Play Bird or Elf.
Turn 2
Play Forest. Tap Bayou for B. Tap Forest for G. Play "Recycled Life". Fetch a "Darksteel Colossus" or something huge. Lose 11 life.
Your opponent loses 2 turns later.
I think it was a drawback that could be afforded to make it a little slower, while still having the same power level if resolved. I didn't want to make it a clone of "Tinker". It's similar, but with extra drawbacks.
But, a 1 creature sacrafice would be pretty interesting to see though.
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2004, 04:54:25 pm » |
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This would be beyond broken at one creature. You could just go kokusho, kokusho, kokusho, kokusho. Or you could do silly things with eternal witness.
This needs to stay at two creatures, and it definitely needs a mana cost to play the ability. Or you could do it only once a turn. That would also be fairer.
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2004, 03:43:36 pm » |
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You could just go kokusho, kokusho, kokusho, kokusho. Or you could do silly things with eternal witness. This a sorcery with an enchantment wording which I think has caused confusion here. If its worded correctly you cant chain these but I agree that 2 creatures is important. Life loss may or may not be necessary. |
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Norm4eva
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2004, 04:22:30 pm » |
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Yeah, it is a Sorcery and the appropriate template should probably be this:
Recycled Life
BG
Sorcery
As an additional cost to play -this-, sacrifice a creature.
Search your library for a creature card and put it into play. You lose life equal to that creature's casting cost.
@mr_x: One could fetch DS Collossus on turn 2, yes. Mask.dec already does similar things with a less severe drawback, and if you're playing with Bayous (per your example) then you're also playing with Force, Swords, all the same things that keep broken turn 2s in check basically. For doing what it does I could see the CC going to 1BG.
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mr_x
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2004, 04:29:36 pm » |
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Yes, this card IS a sorcery and the wording of this card should be different from what i have listed earlier. You should only be able to use it one. Unless you guys think that it would serve better as an enchantment. But then i think it would then be broken. Since you can always set it up with a platinum an keep on recurring the ability if you have enough creatures in play or able to get into play. I personally think that this as a sorcery will be fine. The correct wording should be as follows:
Recycled Life
BG
Sorcery
As an additional cost to play Recycled Life, sacrifice 2 creatures.
Search your library for a creature card and put it into play. Lose life equal to creature's casting cost.
I think that this would help it out clarifications of this card. But i was just thinking. What if it could do this:
Recycled Life
BG
Sorcery
As an additional cost to play Recycled Life, sacrifice 2 creatures.
Search any library or graveyard for a creature card and put it into play under your control. Lose life equal to creature's casting cost.
WOW! I would surely play this card. Who cares about the drawback. It's extremely cool to to try to pull it off. But give me some feedback on this little change[/i]
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mr_x
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2004, 04:39:04 pm » |
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Yes, i know that mask does a similar thing with less of a drawback. But you need that set card to get the combo going. I used to play masknaught, and found myself in trouble with out the mask. But yes, i see what your saying though. The thing about this card is that i doesn't rely on two specific cards to play out a combo. But, it does require 2 creatures. My thought when creating this card is to make a decent one where i would play it, but not overpowering where it ends up breaking the game. Masknaught i pretty game breaking, but i put into consideration of power in type 1 and also standard format.
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Norm4eva
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2004, 04:39:10 pm » |
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Recycled Life
BG
Sorcery
As an additional cost to play Recycled Life, sacrifice 2 creatures.
Search any library or graveyard for a creature card and put it into play under your control. Lose life equal to creature's casting cost.
WOW! I would surely play this card. Who cares about the drawback. It's extremely cool to to try to pull it off. But give me some feedback on this little change. Stealing creatures from a player's library? Red and Blue are usually the creature stealers; granted Reanimate nabs a guy from any graveyard, but that's any graveyard. Seems like the cost is sticking to "two creatures" and it's probably better that way; I might just be trying to justify my BG Reanimator.dec  It's still pretty hip as a cheap Natural Order. |
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2004, 04:41:39 pm » |
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The BG Natural Order. I think that it should just stay that way.
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