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« on: November 03, 2004, 04:03:54 am » |
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Merciful Monk
2W
Creature - Cleric
3/3
If Merciful Monk would deal lethal damage to a creature, prevent that damage. Put a life-debt counter on the creature and it gains defender. (It can't attack. This effect doesn't end at end of turn.)
Current wording:
Merciful Monk
2W
Creature - Cleric
2/3
Vigilance, Protection from creatures with grace counters.
If Merciful Monk would deal lethal damage to a creature without a grace counter, prevent that damage and put a grace counter on the creature.
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2004, 11:18:55 am » |
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Interesting. I don't know if this needs to be a 3/3 for 3 mana. That's quite a pounder when there are no creatures to block it.
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2004, 02:33:29 pm » |
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This can put a lot of redundant counters on a creature if they keep blocking.
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2004, 08:04:08 pm » |
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Yeah this card'll get blocked all day after awhile. What if it just did something like "creature does not untap during its next untap step" or something? Just so it doesn't get chumped by a Raging Goblin all day long?
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2004, 08:13:21 pm » |
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"If Merciful Monk would deal lethal damage to a creature without defender, prevent that damage. Put a life-debt counter on the creature and it gains defender."
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2004, 08:29:46 pm » |
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Or just say, "Creatures with life-debt counters cannot block Merciful Monk." 'Cause, if they owe it a life debt, why would they be blocking it?
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2004, 04:05:14 am » |
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I like that. Ok.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2004, 01:35:41 pm » |
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Strangest protection ability ever. :)
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2004, 11:01:21 pm » |
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I really like the flavor of this card, but does white really need another 2/2 first-striker for 2?
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2004, 01:20:51 am » |
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These counters need a better (and shorter) name. Make up some flavor text to explain the life-debt thing.
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2004, 02:44:08 pm » |
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What if you got rid of the counters entirely and made Merciful Monk change the color of the creature instead? Then it could simply have protection from a color as opposed to protection from creatures with ~name~ counters on them.
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2004, 04:12:24 pm » |
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The whole point of using counters is so the players don't have to remember exactly which ones have been affected.
What if it changes colour and gets a counter, like Sensei Golden Tail?
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2004, 04:22:45 pm » |
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You could call them "grace" counters.
I like it exactly as is, weird protection ability and all. It is odd, true, but its function is perfectly obvious, so this won't create any rules issues. Changing colors will just complicate things.
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2004, 08:50:25 pm » |
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The 2 slot is definitely taken care of insofar as little white men are concerned... This could probably become a 3/x for 3 again.
Also I second the grace counter idea. Much simpler.
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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2004, 03:58:24 am » |
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Changed to a 2/3 with Vigilance, to recover some of the "can't attack" flavour of the original.
At the moment it only spares creatures that it hasn't already spared; does that seem fair?
And I realise... this creature can't be affected by Kiku, Night's Flower! The first time, he gives himself a counter; after that he's got protection from himself.
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« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2004, 07:32:37 am » |
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As a 2/3, actually he can be affected by Kiku, Night's Flower. Since he has to deal lethal damage in order to get the counter, all the person with Kiku has to do is use her ability first and then...ping the monk with Frostwielder or something. It will be the Frostwielder that deals the killing blow.
Anyhow, this card is really cool. It's got a lot of good flavour to it - very representative of its colour.
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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2004, 10:22:17 am » |
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Ok, well, clock then.
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